Gas vs PSD
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From: Millersburg, OH
If you need a fifth V10 I'm in but my truck is a pure tow/haul vehicle. I don't drive it daily and it's been known to sit for weeks without so much as me starting it so I don't think I would fit into this test well. I got 109K on it.
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From: Whitewater, WI
Agreed on the late model and early model 6.0 liters.
Like to have more V10's, but doesn't sound like you drive it all the time. It could still work if we all kept track of mileage/expenses, and just figured out cost per mile driven. Will see if the other participants think you should be recruited.
Like to have more V10's, but doesn't sound like you drive it all the time. It could still work if we all kept track of mileage/expenses, and just figured out cost per mile driven. Will see if the other participants think you should be recruited.
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From: Rogersville, TN
Just my 2 cents, but I was thinking that a per mile cost would be the best way to do it for everyone since total cost will vary based on the miles driven. The only mileage rule I would like is that everyone drives enough miles to do an oil change. If I drive 50k miles and Mike drives 5k miles I will have 10 oil changes to his 1, so my total cost will be a lot higher but the price per mile won't change. I say we let him join in, but like I said before, it's your test and you make the rules.
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From: CA Bay Area
You never make the rules that will satisfy everybody. Just post what you spend and on what and let the readers draw the conclusions.
For example I bought my Superduty 4 years ago very cheap. I spend some dollars on new water pump and couple of switches, as well as oil changes and with my labor there was not that much money. Now I believe I can sell my truck for more than I paid for.
Meaning that if I do that -I will have it driven for 4 years and actually make money on it.
For example I bought my Superduty 4 years ago very cheap. I spend some dollars on new water pump and couple of switches, as well as oil changes and with my labor there was not that much money. Now I believe I can sell my truck for more than I paid for.
Meaning that if I do that -I will have it driven for 4 years and actually make money on it.
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From: WV
Me and you(and Sandman) have friendly debates and we don't call each other names lol. I wasn't referring to you all with that comment. Several others have pretty much called me a liar or said that I didn't know what I was talking about for saying my 7.3 is cheaper to drive than a v10. Or called my numbers "faulty", etc. Now is the chance to prove me wrong and none of them are jumping at the opportunity. 
I'm willing to let someone ride along with me, watch my truck 24/7, put a security camera on it or whatever they need in order to trust my numbers. I have no problem proving my numbers are real....
I'm willing to let someone ride along with me, watch my truck 24/7, put a security camera on it or whatever they need in order to trust my numbers. I have no problem proving my numbers are real....However, my previous tow truck (regular truck for towing a horse trailer) was an '02 7.3, and i have to go with ya on this one. Empty that truck could get into the high teens for mpg without an issue, after they started putting exhaust systems everything went to crap (i.e. 6.0). Compared to the 6.8L V10, I would have to say the 7.3 cost less, even though it was dually and the V10 is SRW. Although I never took out the spreadsheet.3
So would you guys count it when the screw up is not the truck fault? I recently had to pay $80 dollars for diagnoses that the guys who did my last oil change in my V10 put 12 quarts in it. Only 5.5 more than it needs. How can that honestly be the trucks fault?
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What is the test again? Sorry, gonna have to be lazy here and not read the past 300 pages. lol
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From: Rogersville, TN
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From: CA Bay Area
My example is the clamp the dealer dropped into my intake. it didn't come clear on drive home and I didn't drive the truck for several days after the service -the dealer denied any responsibility. The cost of new turbo at dealer would be around $2000.
I fixed it with $35 new compressor wheel and my labor. How would you like it entered into the sheet?
So once again -post the actual expenses and let the readers do the judgment.
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From: Rogersville, TN
If we know our starting and ending miles we can do it per mile. Mine becomes $7605/50,000 miles= 15 cents per mile. Bill's becomes $1,125/5,000 miles= 22.5 cents per mile. If Bill drove the same number of miles as me he would have spent $11,250.
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From: Humble, Texas
Here is an example for you. Say I drive 50k miles and Bill drives 5k miles. Say I get 20 mpg's and Bill gets 12 mpg's. I am going to use 2500 gallons of fuel at $2.89 per gallon for a total cost of $7,225. Bill is going to use 417 gallons of gas at $2.65 per gallon for a total cost of $1,105. That is using the price here by my house, as of today. I am going to have 10 oil changes at $38 each, so another $380. That brings me to $7,605. Bill will have one oil change at about $20. That brings him to $1,125. If that is all we have to do someone is going to say see, I told you the v10 is cheaper. Bill can rebuild his engine 4-5 times for what it cost you to drive your 7.3 for the year. Bill wins that hands down, by a mile, since it is just total cost.
If we know our starting and ending miles we can do it per mile. Mine becomes $7605/50,000 miles= 15 cents per mile. Bill's becomes $1,125/5,000 miles= 22.5 cents per mile. If Bill drove the same number of miles as me he would have spent $11,250.
If we know our starting and ending miles we can do it per mile. Mine becomes $7605/50,000 miles= 15 cents per mile. Bill's becomes $1,125/5,000 miles= 22.5 cents per mile. If Bill drove the same number of miles as me he would have spent $11,250.
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From: Rogersville, TN
I had thought about that too, because fuel does vary based on where you live. For the most part it is going to be within a few cents of each other though. Unless you live somewhere like Hawaii or San Fran, where it is a LOT higher than normal. I'm not going to fuss over a ten cent difference in fuel price. I just don't like the "total cost" comparsion because all that does is punish people that drive more miles.
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From: Rogersville, TN
Seven-point-three asked for suggestions on how to do the test and I am just offering my input. It's just my personal opinion that cost per mile is the best way since our miles driven will vary by an insane amount. I think my suggestion is pretty simple. Total miles driven/total cost=cost to operate.