Gas vs PSD
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I agree with you on the guys that don't tow anything but still look down on the gassers. Not once have I said the v10 can't get the job done or that they are crap. So don't count me in with those guys.
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I didn't mean you since I don't really know you personally. But I live in Redneck Central, where if your truck ain't a diesel, it ain't a "real" truck. Heck, just washing your truck around here is enough to get some of the locals questioning your sexual orientation!
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We have our share of those types around here too. We also have our share of the people who do yard work in dress pants and collared shirts but drive diesels because they want a truck and it's the most expensive one they could find. I used to work with a guy that bought a new truck and asked the dealer if they could "take that little square thingy" off of it because he didn't know what it was. I had to tell him that it was the trailer hitch..... He was a bike rider, so when I told him he could put a bike rack in it and haul 4 bikes at a time he decided he wanted it. When I would tow my car hauler to work he would come talk trucks with me and tell me what a good job his truck does "towing" his bikes......
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We have our share of those types around here too. We also have our share of the people who do yard work in dress pants and collared shirts but drive diesels because they want a truck and it's the most expensive one they could find. I used to work with a guy that bought a new truck and asked the dealer if they could "take that little square thingy" off of it because he didn't know what it was. I had to tell him that it was the trailer hitch..... He was a bike rider, so when I told him he could put a bike rack in it and haul 4 bikes at a time he decided he wanted it. When I would tow my car hauler to work he would come talk trucks with me and tell me what a good job his truck does "towing" his bikes......
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I am new to the Ford pick up family but, have had many Chevy pick ups and other brands over the past forty years. The best and strongest Chevy I had was a 1990 crew cab dually 454 automatic. I now own a 2003 Ford F250 Regular Cab 4X4 with a V-10 and a the four speed auto. I can say without a doubt that this is the strongest truck I have ever owned and, the most fun to drive. It pulls almost as strong as a Duramax and is a lot easier to maintain. I pull a 10,000 pound fiver. I bought it for a third of the price I was going to pay for a Ford diesel 350. I keep it out of overdrive when necessary to climb the grades and control the descents on steep grades. Pulls as well as the Duramax, just need to grab a few more rpm notes. These four speed trannys are like tank trannys. Still, I would not mind having a new Ford diesel. Maybe when I grow up. Thanks to all for all the good info I have found here.
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That pretty much summarize the topic
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I am new to the Ford pick up family but, have had many Chevy pick ups and other brands over the past forty years. The best and strongest Chevy I had was a 1990 crew cab dually 454 automatic. I now own a 2003 Ford F250 Regular Cab 4X4 with a V-10 and a the four speed auto. I can say without a doubt that this is the strongest truck I have ever owned and, the most fun to drive. It pulls almost as strong as a Duramax and is a lot easier to maintain. I pull a 10,000 pound fiver. I bought it for a third of the price I was going to pay for a Ford diesel 350. I keep it out of overdrive when necessary to climb the grades and control the descents on steep grades. Pulls as well as the Duramax, just need to grab a few more rpm notes. These four speed trannys are like tank trannys. Still, I would not mind having a new Ford diesel. Maybe when I grow up. Thanks to all for all the good info I have found here.
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I am new to the Ford pick up family but, have had many Chevy pick ups and other brands over the past forty years. The best and strongest Chevy I had was a 1990 crew cab dually 454 automatic. I now own a 2003 Ford F250 Regular Cab 4X4 with a V-10 and a the four speed auto. I can say without a doubt that this is the strongest truck I have ever owned and, the most fun to drive. It pulls almost as strong as a Duramax and is a lot easier to maintain. I pull a 10,000 pound fiver. I bought it for a third of the price I was going to pay for a Ford diesel 350. I keep it out of overdrive when necessary to climb the grades and control the descents on steep grades. Pulls as well as the Duramax, just need to grab a few more rpm notes. These four speed trannys are like tank trannys. Still, I would not mind having a new Ford diesel. Maybe when I grow up. Thanks to all for all the good info I have found here.
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Fully loaded, in showroom condition and equally equipped, a 2003 crew cab v10 sells for about $14k and a 2003 crew cab diesel sells for about $17k around here. I have priced about 50 of them in the last couple of months. That being said, I have seen both diesels and v10's in various trim levels and conditions all the way down to $6,000. My cousin just bought a 2002, ext cab, xlt 7.3 with 125k miles for $6,500. It was used as a farm truck and has a few dents and scratches, but it runs like new and the interior is in good shape. I doubt he got his v10 for $2,200..... I would just be curious to know how much he paid for the v10, what kind of shape it's in, what trim level and what kind of diesels he has been comparing it too. He may have found an xl, reg cab, 200k mile work truck for 6k and compared it to a fully loaded, low mileage diesel that was 15k....
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Sounds like the average White House briefing.
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For some people that is exactly right. No one NEEDS a diesel in their truck when all they haul is a bass boat or groceries. I know plenty of people that have diesels that have never even had a trailer hooked to them. For those of us that do tow and do the majority of our towing in steep areas, the diesel is not just for ego. Less downshifting, better mpg's, easier towing, etc. Your 3v v10 may have more hp than my 7.3 and beat me in any kind of shootout you want to run, but I promise you I will do less downshifting under normal driving from point A to point B and I promise I will get better mpg's too. That is function, not ego.
It's not much cheaper to buy. I'll give you 10% cheaper.
And when it comes to mileage, everyone knows that the body falls off our powerstrokes before the engine goes, with proper maintenance of course. I know the V10's are known to outlast most gas motors, but they are not known to regularly get 500K if not more. And as far as towing goes, if gas motors tow better, why dont the big rigs have 'em if that's the case?