Gas vs PSD
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From: Humble, Texas
Hey Bill, we're up at around 9,000 feet. Aside from the elevation, the problem is the speed limit on the road up the hill. It's 45 most of the way which means that a psd can cruise up at reasonable rpm in either third or fourth gear. Who knows what gear a V10 has to be in to pull at the speed limit, but the rpm is very high. Nobody wants to be at 5k rpm continuously for 20-25 minutes. Because of that, most dudes don't even try to pull at the speed limit. In addition, the road is designated as a "Safety Corridor" by the state of New Mexico which means the Sheriff will pull you over at the drop of a hat, and the fine is doubled. So no speeding so you can get into the sweet spot.
You know what we call dudes trying to pull trailers with a gasser around here? Tourists. If you moved here, Bill, you'd look around and notice that you were the ONLY local dude trying to pull trailers with a gasser. Even you would eventually have a psd in the driveway.
You know what we call dudes trying to pull trailers with a gasser around here? Tourists. If you moved here, Bill, you'd look around and notice that you were the ONLY local dude trying to pull trailers with a gasser. Even you would eventually have a psd in the driveway.
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From: Eccles, WV
By the way, how did you know that Hyundai could think and see? LOL
Just trying to be a smart ***!
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From: Eccles, WV
95,
This morning a new Chevy Impala must have thought she saw the same type of bullseye on the rear of my truck in the Kroger Parking lot. All it did was dump the snow off of the roof and maybe a little rust off of my truck, but the Impala could not see anymore. She also blew a little steam. Typical for a woman trying to cover her butt when she is at fault. LOL I know I do be in trouble for that comment! hahahaha The funny thing about it was the lady driver jumped out and told me that I was illegally parked. She was cutting across the parking lot instead of driving down the lanes. Dumb broad. When I told her to call the police, she quickly departed.
But no damage to the old blue tank!
This morning a new Chevy Impala must have thought she saw the same type of bullseye on the rear of my truck in the Kroger Parking lot. All it did was dump the snow off of the roof and maybe a little rust off of my truck, but the Impala could not see anymore. She also blew a little steam. Typical for a woman trying to cover her butt when she is at fault. LOL I know I do be in trouble for that comment! hahahaha The funny thing about it was the lady driver jumped out and told me that I was illegally parked. She was cutting across the parking lot instead of driving down the lanes. Dumb broad. When I told her to call the police, she quickly departed.
But no damage to the old blue tank!
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From: Texas
Hey Bill, we're up at around 9,000 feet. Aside from the elevation, the problem is the speed limit on the road up the hill. It's 45 most of the way which means that a psd can cruise up at reasonable rpm in either third or fourth gear. Who knows what gear a V10 has to be in to pull at the speed limit, but the rpm is very high. Nobody wants to be at 5k rpm continuously for 20-25 minutes. Because of that, most dudes don't even try to pull at the speed limit. In addition, the road is designated as a "Safety Corridor" by the state of New Mexico which means the Sheriff will pull you over at the drop of a hat, and the fine is doubled. So no speeding so you can get into the sweet spot.
You know what we call dudes trying to pull trailers with a gasser around here? Tourists. If you moved here, Bill, you'd look around and notice that you were the ONLY local dude trying to pull trailers with a gasser. Even you would eventually have a psd in the driveway.
You know what we call dudes trying to pull trailers with a gasser around here? Tourists. If you moved here, Bill, you'd look around and notice that you were the ONLY local dude trying to pull trailers with a gasser. Even you would eventually have a psd in the driveway.
I would not get a PSD, I would , for under $2,000 get intake, Y pipe, headers, PI heads and a 5 star tune.
That would get my HP back up to about 265 at 9,000' and let me outpull
7.3s.
My sweet spots are 41 in first and 69 in second, at a little less than 5K RPMs.
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From: Humble, Texas
In order to avoid getting a psd, Bill would spend 2 grand on mods that would be worth less than 500 bucks on resale and he'd still end up with a psd in the driveway.
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In the theoretical sense, what Bill proposes would work just fine. He'd have other issues though. After his 2 grand investment, he'd enjoy his new found performance, especially when he was at the bottom of the hill, since that's only at 4k. Over time, the increased performance would spoil him and he'd get tired of losing it as he went up the hill. So despite the fact that he'd have a better machine than when he arrived, the performance loss at the top would eat at him. That's when he'd break down and buy a psd.
In order to avoid getting a psd, Bill would spend 2 grand on mods that would be worth less than 500 bucks on resale and he'd still end up with a psd in the driveway.
In order to avoid getting a psd, Bill would spend 2 grand on mods that would be worth less than 500 bucks on resale and he'd still end up with a psd in the driveway.
I had to rep ya for that one.
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From: Texas
In the theoretical sense, what Bill proposes would work just fine. He'd have other issues though. After his 2 grand investment, he'd enjoy his new found performance, especially when he was at the bottom of the hill, since that's only at 4k. Over time, the increased performance would spoil him and he'd get tired of losing it as he went up the hill. So despite the fact that he'd have a better machine than when he arrived, the performance loss at the top would eat at him. That's when he'd break down and buy a psd.
In order to avoid getting a psd, Bill would spend 2 grand on mods that would be worth less than 500 bucks on resale and he'd still end up with a psd in the driveway.
In order to avoid getting a psd, Bill would spend 2 grand on mods that would be worth less than 500 bucks on resale and he'd still end up with a psd in the driveway.
I would be out pulling 7.3s at 9,000 feet by the same margin I am now at sea leval. I think that I would be happy with that.
If I was not I would just turbo it.
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From: Alaska
Without giving any reasons whatsoever, the V10 is better. The PSD is a crap engine and should be scrapped by Ford. Ford should only offer their current 3V V10 in all vehicles, from Focus to F-Series to beyond. I think they should power the current space shuttle with the V10, but no matter how many letters I've sent to my congress persons and NASA they haven't accepted the idea yet.
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bucci - "It's amazing to see how some people choose to make their first post." True... but I always say... "better late than never."
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V10 Bill... I went to a bio-diesel making class awhile back and was very impressed with the simplicity for making the stuff. I really thought for a long time that it was beyond my reach and also how easy it is to keep the Fire Marshall happy
However, I did learn if you can get a co-op going, so much the better. Keeps overall costs down but one issue could be how do you keep it even-steven across the board. How's the cost split up when maybe one guy uses more over the others? Gotta keep some books and make sure each involved is good with it. Doing it on my own would be a lot of work but still a great advantage in the long run.
msgtord - Here's a good link to give you an idea of how many Bio stations are across the nation.
Biodiesel Stations | OVER 1500 BIODIESEL LOCATIONS IN THE US
[URL="http://www.nearbio.com/"]
V10 Bill... I went to a bio-diesel making class awhile back and was very impressed with the simplicity for making the stuff. I really thought for a long time that it was beyond my reach and also how easy it is to keep the Fire Marshall happy
However, I did learn if you can get a co-op going, so much the better. Keeps overall costs down but one issue could be how do you keep it even-steven across the board. How's the cost split up when maybe one guy uses more over the others? Gotta keep some books and make sure each involved is good with it. Doing it on my own would be a lot of work but still a great advantage in the long run.
