Gas vs PSD
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I would also question his 1 million miles on a factory engine/tranny(especially since he said he has gone 55k miles between oil changes before) because I see that same engine/tranny combo crapping out all the time at 125-150k miles when everything has been properly maintained. Like I said, it's possible, but if he has driven that many miles AND is on the original engine/tranny then he got a rare one and I congratulate him. I've been around drag strips and truck shops all my life and have heard "it's all stock" enough to know that 90% of them are lying.
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A lot of this stuff is done at garages, dealerships, and such. Say you've got a truck sitting in a shop and it needs a part that's 75 miles away. You could send one of the techs after it at $90.00 an hour, or more, or you could have one of the on time delivery services out there pick it up and make the delivery for you. Wait a day, and the owner of that truck is out one days income, plus paying a driver for down time, and likely a hotel room. So, depending on the situation, it's cheaper to pay to get the part now as opposed to later. I see this a lot.
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I don't doubt that there are a lot of emergency shipments. I just said if he really has driven that many miles, he's done nothing but drive all day for 12 years straight.
I would also question his 1 million miles on a factory engine/tranny(especially since he said he has gone 55k miles between oil changes before) because I see that same engine/tranny combo crapping out all the time at 125-150k miles when everything has been properly maintained. Like I said, it's possible, but if he has driven that many miles AND is on the original engine/tranny then he got a rare one and I congratulate him. I've been around drag strips and truck shops all my life and have heard "it's all stock" enough to know that 90% of them are lying.
I would also question his 1 million miles on a factory engine/tranny(especially since he said he has gone 55k miles between oil changes before) because I see that same engine/tranny combo crapping out all the time at 125-150k miles when everything has been properly maintained. Like I said, it's possible, but if he has driven that many miles AND is on the original engine/tranny then he got a rare one and I congratulate him. I've been around drag strips and truck shops all my life and have heard "it's all stock" enough to know that 90% of them are lying.
I read an article that said 3,000 pounds is a normal load for him.
It has have a pretty easy life IMO, never off road, no towing etc.
BTW, it was up to 1,123,000 last time I checked.
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I saw where they said they had logs showing what all they have done to the van. But it wouldn't be anything for him to replace a tranny/engine on the weekend if it goes out. Then take it in for its next scheduled maintenance and no one know the difference. I'm on my third tranny in my bronco(212k miles) and no one would know the difference unless I told them. When my ex wife's alero blew the engine on a Friday I had it out on Saturday and a replacement back in on Sunday. Even if you tore the engine down to doubt my claims of longevity, it would still be a factory engine because I took it out of a wrecked car that only had 30k miles on it. I'm not saying he didn't do what he said, I'm just always skeptical when someone makes a claim like that.
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So there is one V10 over 1,000,000 miles. How many PSDs are there?
Kind of like you see in the news when the vegetarian that went to the gym everyday had a heart attack at 50, but you never hear about the 300 people that died that day from smoking.
Sorry, just trying to stir the pot some more, going for 300 pages.
Kind of like you see in the news when the vegetarian that went to the gym everyday had a heart attack at 50, but you never hear about the 300 people that died that day from smoking.
Sorry, just trying to stir the pot some more, going for 300 pages.
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So there is one V10 over 1,000,000 miles. How many PSDs are there?
Kind of like you see in the news when the vegetarian that went to the gym everyday had a heart attack at 50, but you never hear about the 300 people that died that day from smoking.
Sorry, just trying to stir the pot some more, going for 300 pages.
Kind of like you see in the news when the vegetarian that went to the gym everyday had a heart attack at 50, but you never hear about the 300 people that died that day from smoking.
Sorry, just trying to stir the pot some more, going for 300 pages.
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We smell yours 3 miles before we hear her.
I saw where they said they had logs showing what all they have done to the van. But it wouldn't be anything for him to replace a tranny/engine on the weekend if it goes out. Then take it in for its next scheduled maintenance and no one know the difference. I'm on my third tranny in my bronco(212k miles) and no one would know the difference unless I told them. When my ex wife's alero blew the engine on a Friday I had it out on Saturday and a replacement back in on Sunday. Even if you tore the engine down to doubt my claims of longevity, it would still be a factory engine because I took it out of a wrecked car that only had 30k miles on it. I'm not saying he didn't do what he said, I'm just always skeptical when someone makes a claim like that.
He has nothing to gain buy lying about it.
I have no problem believing it could last that long with gentle driving.
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I have never seen a PSD or a V10 with more than 600,000.
At least you hear mine coming.
We smell yours 3 miles before we hear her.
Good point, but why would He want to?
He has nothing to gain buy lying about it.
I have no problem believing it could last that long with gentle driving.
At least you hear mine coming.
We smell yours 3 miles before we hear her.
Good point, but why would He want to?
He has nothing to gain buy lying about it.
I have no problem believing it could last that long with gentle driving.
I personally know of two PSD with over 650k miles on them. There is a guy on the forum here somewhere that just rebuilt his with over 800k miles on it.
The difference is, I am in Tennessee and I can hear your mom coming from Texas
Why would a man lie about his son being in a balloon and have police and media go on a wild goose chase trying to get him down? People will do anything to make people believe something they own is better than something you own(why do we have 300 pages of debating going on at the moment?) or to get their name/face in the news. I would be more likely to believe the engine made it that long than the transmission. It's hard to get an automatic to last 200k miles under the most gentle of conditions, much less a million. I'm not saying the guy is lying, but I am very skeptical of it.
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You're in east Tennessee at that. Of course I know what you're saying there. Hills that I could normally top at highway speed are a different thing when momma's in the bed. The circus has called looking for her,,,,,,,,,,
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Why would a man lie about his son being in a balloon and have police and media go on a wild goose chase trying to get him down? People will do anything to make people believe something they own is better than something you own(why do we have 300 pages of debating going on at the moment?) or to get their name/face in the news. I would be more likely to believe the engine made it that long than the transmission. It's hard to get an automatic to last 200k miles under the most gentle of conditions, much less a million. I'm not saying the guy is lying, but I am very skeptical of it.
I agree about the engine out living the tranny, but I have one about to turn over 167K that still works even after all my abuse and heavy towing.
200K is aiming a little low, I have heard of an ambulance with 456,000 that was wrecked with the original 4R100 still in it, and an f350 used for hotshoting with 350K.
I still would rather drive a stick, no matter how long an auto lasts.
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I agree about the engine out living the tranny, but I have one about to turn over 167K that still works even after all my abuse and heavy towing.
200K is aiming a little low, I have heard of an ambulance with 456,000 that was wrecked with the original 4R100 still in it, and an f350 used for hotshoting with 350K.
I still would rather drive a stick, no matter how long an auto lasts.
200K is aiming a little low, I have heard of an ambulance with 456,000 that was wrecked with the original 4R100 still in it, and an f350 used for hotshoting with 350K.
I still would rather drive a stick, no matter how long an auto lasts.
The 4r100 is basically just a slightly improved version of the e4od and you can consider yourself lucky to get an e4od to last 125-150k miles. With an auto you may not get a warning sign that it's going out either. One minute it will work great and the next minute you may be missing 4 gears. Trust me lol. I drove 60 miles from home to see my grandfather and it shifted great. When I went to leave I had no reverse, 1st, 2nd or 3rd. I had to drive from Benham, KY to Kingsport, TN in 4th gear. So just remember that when you're abusing your tranny like you do. It may be taking the abuse great today, but not work tomorrow.
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Just the way automatics are designed is going to make them wear out. With a manual you have metal gears that will not wear out as long as you take care of it. With autos, no matter how good you take care of it, the clutches are going to wear out(just like the clutch in a manual and posi units in a rear end). Any heat, unclean fluids, shifting, etc, is going to cause those clutches to wear out even faster. That's why I question 1 million miles on an automatic.
The 4r100 is basically just a slightly improved version of the e4od and you can consider yourself lucky to get an e4od to last 125-150k miles. With an auto you may not get a warning sign that it's going out either. One minute it will work great and the next minute you may be missing 4 gears. Trust me lol. I drove 60 miles from home to see my grandfather and it shifted great. When I went to leave I had no reverse, 1st, 2nd or 3rd. I had to drive from Benham, KY to Kingsport, TN in 4th gear.
I never shift it while rolling or do anything stupid to abuse it, but I do exceed the GCWR and run it heavy throttle a large part of the time.
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