Josh, that sounds like a very boring job. Sitting in your truck watching others work. I would go crazy doing that.LOL

 

It was just one thing that never came up during the whole thread.

I Idle it as much as 4 hours some days using the a/c,heater,Headlights and running the winch.


Tell you what, I'll take my spark plugs out.
You take your glow plugs out.

Then we will see which truck will outpull the other and settle this once and for all.

 

I do not need glow plugs. I can plug the holes and my truck will still start and run. Yours will not run.

 

So I guess you will agree since yours will not run the PSD is the better truck.

 

You had 5.4s and V10s dieing at 125K?

There are ones that have over 1,000,000 miles on them.

Is idling them much worse then normal driving?

 

Wow, that line of thinking blew up in my face.

I did not mean you could plug the holes.

 

That was a gimme. Thanks Bill.

 

I will let you plug your holes too. You can use your spark plugs. Just leave the coil packs disconnected. See, I am trying to help ya out.

 

I should have thought about this BEFORE posting that challenge.

 

It ok Bill. I am having fun with this. It is better than the mama jokes. Of course I know a few more but they are the side of cruel.LOL

 

I'm having fun with this too.

I know a lot more your momma jokes, but they are extremely crude.

 

Idling is a little worse than normal driving, but unless it's excessive idling(like on our job sites) it shouldn't cause any harm. What does make a difference is that it's miles don't show up on the odometer. That's why most industrial engines that do a lot of idling(tractors, etc) go by hours instead of miles. For every two minutes you idle it's the equivalent of driving one mile. So if you idle for 8 hours that is the equivalent of 240 miles. Those 5.4's and v10's that were dying with 125k miles on them probably had the equivalent of about 250-300k. Edit-Just did a little research and from what I found, idling is worse on a gasser than a diesel. At idle the fuel in a gasser isn't fully combusted, leaving build up on the spark plugs and cylinder walls, which leads to premature cylinder wear, oil consumption and loss of compression. Diesels don't rely on a spark to combust the fuel, so that isn't a problem for them.

I know of that one million mile van that everyone references when talking about the modular durability, but to be honest with you, I question whether it has that kind of miles on it. Based on the year of the van, the number of miles he puts on it per year, etc, he would have to drive about 300 miles a day(5 hours a day), 7 days a week, 365 days per year in order to get to the miles he is at. That is assuming he never gets stopped by a redlight, stops to eat lunch or go to the bathroom, never gets stuck in traffic, etc. It's possible, but if it's true then that guy has done nothing but drive every day for 12 or 13 years.

 

You have a good point. But do you understand what he does with this van? He is an O/O for an expediting outfit. His job is very similar to my job as an OTR truck driver; he drives long distances all day, every day. Expeditors very frequently run 5-600 mile days, and because it's not a CDL-class vehicle I don't think he's bound by the federal hours of service, meaning he could really drive far more than that in a day.

Expeditors spend their life on the freeway, not in and around urban areas.

 

Those miles and hours I figured up were based on him driving 7 days a week, 365 days a year for 12 years straight(275 miles per day). Subtract at least 2 weeks per year for vacation time and his miles per day goes up to 285 per day. Assume he gets weekends off and his mileage is up to 400 per day. I may be wrong, but I was under the impression that the HOS applied to any vehicle that has a DOT number(his does). I'm not saying he didn't do it, just that I question it.

 

My '06 KW that I recently turned in had 555,000 miles on it. It was manufactured in 6/2005 and was NOT a team truck.

Which is harder to believe, 1,000,000 miles in 11 years or 555,000 miles in 4 1/2 years?

Not saying that I know it's true, just that it's very possible.