Gas vs PSD
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I need an 05- V10 for that.
I will still pull hills with him, but he has more gears, more HP and more tq.
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We need to go down that road again? LOL yes a magazine did take a dually 1 ton diesel and it was going the same speed after 700 feet as a 3/4 ton srw v10. Though the v10 took longer to get there.
If you are using that as your source it is wrong. If not, then post your source.
If you are using that as your source it is wrong. If not, then post your source.
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We need to go down that road again? LOL yes a magazine did take a dually 1 ton diesel and it was going the same speed after 700 feet as a 3/4 ton srw v10. Though the v10 took longer to get there.
If you are using that as your source it is wrong. If not, then post your source.
If you are using that as your source it is wrong. If not, then post your source.
Second what makes it wrong, because the V10 won? lol
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I thought all this had been covered?
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You thinkm your V 10 will out pull a 6.4 
Thats the best Joke I have heard today 
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So, to be fair it must be flat ground or a shallow hill?
We can agree on that, they should have put 670 pounds in the bed of the V10 truck. The rest of the difference is the lighter motor.
I think towing 10K up a 15 degree grade from a dead stop that does not matter.
On a 700' track. It was gaining on it fast once it really got the load going.
The magazine that did the test said it was still pulling when they got to the top, the 6.4 was maxed out at a slower speed..
I wish they would redo the test, 15 MPH rolling start, identical trucks, 1/4 mile 15% grade.
Then the V10 would be the clear winner and the PSD guys would have to forever stfu about different weight, gearing, the turbo was not spooled up, even though I was going slower and the V10 was gaining speed I still got to the top first, etc.
We can agree on that, they should have put 670 pounds in the bed of the V10 truck. The rest of the difference is the lighter motor.
I think towing 10K up a 15 degree grade from a dead stop that does not matter.
On a 700' track. It was gaining on it fast once it really got the load going.
The magazine that did the test said it was still pulling when they got to the top, the 6.4 was maxed out at a slower speed..
I wish they would redo the test, 15 MPH rolling start, identical trucks, 1/4 mile 15% grade.
Then the V10 would be the clear winner and the PSD guys would have to forever stfu about different weight, gearing, the turbo was not spooled up, even though I was going slower and the V10 was gaining speed I still got to the top first, etc.
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So, to be fair it must be flat ground or a shallow hill?
We can agree on that, they should have put 670 pounds in the bed of the V10 truck. The rest of the difference is the lighter motor.
I think towing 10K up a 15 degree grade from a dead stop that does not matter.
On a 700' track. It was gaining on it fast once it really got the load going.
The magazine that did the test said it was still pulling when they got to the top, the 6.4 was maxed out at a slower speed..
I wish they would redo the test, 15 MPH rolling start, identical trucks, 1/4 mile 15% grade.
Then the V10 would be the clear winner and the PSD guys would have to forever stfu about different weight, gearing, the turbo was not spooled up, even though I was going slower and the V10 was gaining speed I still got to the top first, etc.
We can agree on that, they should have put 670 pounds in the bed of the V10 truck. The rest of the difference is the lighter motor.
I think towing 10K up a 15 degree grade from a dead stop that does not matter.
On a 700' track. It was gaining on it fast once it really got the load going.
The magazine that did the test said it was still pulling when they got to the top, the 6.4 was maxed out at a slower speed..
I wish they would redo the test, 15 MPH rolling start, identical trucks, 1/4 mile 15% grade.
Then the V10 would be the clear winner and the PSD guys would have to forever stfu about different weight, gearing, the turbo was not spooled up, even though I was going slower and the V10 was gaining speed I still got to the top first, etc.
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"The F-350's( 6.4 psd) speedo barely inched up from 100-m to 250-m, while the F-250 (v10)gained over 6-mph."
If they had done the test with the trucks at speed or on and longer track the V10 would have been the winner in both speed and time, the 6.4s low end TQ is much better than a V10s off the line, which gave it the upper hand in the test.
If they had done the test with the trucks at speed or on and longer track the V10 would have been the winner in both speed and time, the 6.4s low end TQ is much better than a V10s off the line, which gave it the upper hand in the test.
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Well when u find a 15% grade for 800 feet with a stop light at the bottom then we can call that test meaningful. Until then, in my world, I tow 6 to 7% grades frequently but they are several miles long. When you show me a test where a v10 wins that, then you can say the v10 outpulled the 6.4.
That test is worthless. But regardless, it definitely did not show that the v10 won.
That test is worthless. But regardless, it definitely did not show that the v10 won.
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Yeah, real world. We average 50mph or less in daily driving, start and stop, you don't do jackrabbit starts or try to race up a hill. You try to maintain speed and on a steep hill holding 55-65 is harder than WOT seeing if you can go faster.
I know the V10 is a strong motor but it can't drive like a diesel does in every day situations. The idea of outpulling should be applied to how easy it is to go through 8 traffic lights, go 55 mph on two lane highways, and maintain safe speed on the interstates. Any motor will do it but the PSD requires less work for the operator.
I know the V10 is a strong motor but it can't drive like a diesel does in every day situations. The idea of outpulling should be applied to how easy it is to go through 8 traffic lights, go 55 mph on two lane highways, and maintain safe speed on the interstates. Any motor will do it but the PSD requires less work for the operator.