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Old Sep 14, 2008 | 01:43 PM
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I've had to hard wire around all of the transfer switches in my motor home. At least 3 of them. They are just too damn expensive, but boy oh boy, I really have to pay attention to what I am doing. I can and have burned up the generator, I can and have burned up the inverter, but only once each. I learn fairly easily.....LOL.. You should hear the sound it makes if I setup in a campground late at night after being on the road all day running the generator for the A/C and then plugging in the 50 amp shore service without turning off the generator breaker.
I am betting there is two sounds, the first sounds electrical, the next, verbal..both just as loud....
 
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Old Sep 14, 2008 | 02:04 PM
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I am betting there is two sounds, the first sounds electrical, the next, verbal..both just as loud....
That's a real good bet. I failed to mention the sparks that fly out of the campground hookup. I also failed to mention the 750 dollar microwave I screwed up. But it was so new Sharp fixed it under warranty. It is a convection, micro combo which is why it was so much money. That happened because I plugged in with the generator still running, hence I fed everything 220 for a micro second. It also took out my power supply for my printer, so I really got lucky with that mistake.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2008 | 02:53 PM
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Just got a text from Scott, not generator today, he's trying again tomorrow. That sucks. Ask him again about the offers for you guys to bring him one, waiting on reply.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2008 | 03:16 PM
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How long was he sitting there waiting, that sucks. How did Lowes drop the ball like that?
 

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Old Sep 14, 2008 | 03:32 PM
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Don't know the details. I know he was there (Lowes) at 8:30am my time, got the no go text at 3:45. He's a little whipped. Still texting him about Makomakers offer.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2008 | 03:57 PM
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That sucks to have to wait that long and still not get one. Hope he has better luck tomorrow. All our offers still stand if it comes to that.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2008 | 03:59 PM
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You guys are outstanding!! I hate just sitting here watching and not being able to contribute..
 
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Old Sep 14, 2008 | 04:09 PM
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You guys are outstanding!! I hate just sitting here watching and not being able to contribute..
Pat, I was talking to Roland earlier today and he told me that all of our well wishes, thoughts and prayers, along with the willingness to help is a a big help to all thoses affected.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2008 | 04:21 PM
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Scott just said he will try one more place in AM then may take one of the offers. He's a little stressed now. Still can't call, but text instead and I will tell you that I don't text for a reason. don't know the keys and can't see them little letters. Anyway, I am getting some better after 10-12 today. He's going to call if he finds sevice in the am.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2008 | 05:18 PM
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You are 100% correct Jay. The best way is via some type of transfer switch. You can either have one across the mains or what is referred to as a Gentran switch. This allows you to switch predetermined circuits from utility power to generator power. When the rest of your house comes on then the utility power is restored and you switch the Gentran back to utility power.
This is the best way to hook up a generator, but costly. Also hard to do when you are aggrvated about the loss of power to the house. Definatly something to do before the next season.

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I have seen a lot of setups where people have a double ended male cord and they plug one end into the generator and the other into the dryer outlet to backfeed the house. This, all though it works, is very dangerous. You can have live prongs on either end of the cord and if you don't shut off your main breaker you will back feed the utility lines. When the power comes back on you can blow the generator. This way is illegal according to the NEC and dangerous. It should'nt be done unless there is a dire emergency and there is no other means to power what needs to be powered. The most important thing is to shut off your main circuit breaker.
Have seen quite a few generators hooked up like this. The cord is usually called a suicide cord. If you hook up like this you need to make sure the main in the panel is turned off, or pull the meter, or both. During tiimes of emergency they will not fine you if you remove the meter yourself. Also remember the linemen out on the pole will appriciate if you hook your generator up correctly. When I was doing line work after the 2003 storms when FL got hit by 4 hurricanes, some linemen did die because of improperly connected generators.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2008 | 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by totin_tools
Have seen quite a few generators hooked up like this. The cord is usually called a suicide cord. If you hook up like this you need to make sure the main in the panel is turned off, or pull the meter, or both. During tiimes of emergency they will not fine you if you remove the meter yourself. Also remember the linemen out on the pole will appriciate if you hook your generator up correctly. When I was doing line work after the 2003 storms when FL got hit by 4 hurricanes, some linemen did die because of improperly connected generators.
Unfourtunatly here alot of the meters are locked. So you have to shut down the main.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2008 | 05:46 PM
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Glad to see everyone seems to be O.K., unscathed.

Everyone continue to be careful.

Remember you can replace your things, but not yourselves.

The rest of you are amazing.

If I can help in any way, please let me know. Like Jim, I feel helpless being so far away.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2008 | 06:14 PM
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Unfourtunatly here alot of the meters are locked. So you have to shut down the main.
thats what bolt cutters are made for.....I have used the suicide cord method, generally pulling the meter base when I have. If I ever do build a place new you can bet it will be wired for a genset....those auto switches are sweet, and the standalone purpose built generators really are a bargain for what you get. My generator is Lincoln Ranger 8 welder...about 100 hours on it. My biggest gripe on it is that you need the forklift to put it in the truck to be mobile.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2008 | 06:16 PM
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These locks are a round barrell style lock made out of SS. I have tried to get a key but no luck at all. They are guarded like gold.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2008 | 06:39 PM
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Down here in Fl at least they have the little metal clip on them. I guess they figure in the event of a devastating storm you can remove the meter from the base. If you think about it a big padlock type or barrel lock would take the linemen along time to pull your meter out when you don't pay the bill. But I guess they figure that nobody will steal power with this lock that you have.
 
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