Glad the op has been approved for the repair.

 

Glad the OP has had the repair approved.

We only hear about the bad trucks really. Millions of 6.7's have been sold. They all can't be junk. How many guys drive around never giving this another thought and never have any issue with the CP4 or anything else really?

 

I’m not going to say I drive down the road and see 46 PSDs on the roadside every day because that’s not the case.

I also own a 6.7 PSD and understand the pros and cons.

the failure rate is certainly higher than it should for such a part…which is why you see DPK & the new DCR pump upgrade which is the best solution. They exist for a reason and smart use of these options can mitigate future issues. Lack of maintenance and bad fuel and you’re asking for issues. Bottom line is the cp4 isn’t a great fuel pump and I’m sure ford wishes they didn’t select it in hindsight.

but I think it certainly gets blown out of proportion as well because of how much damage occurs when it lets go. from the overall numbers, it’s not like it’s a 50/50 chance anytime you fire it up for a ride. Remember forums tend to amplify the good AND the bad because those are usually the people who feel most compelled to post.

I still stand by my belief that if you’re afraid of the cp4 you need to do one of two things of you plan on running it hard into higher mileage:

1) run a dpk so you reduce total failure risk to the fuel system

2) swap to a DCR and live your life happily

no sense in thinking about a fuel pump more than that when there are a lot of other things in life you could focus your energy on

one thing we better all hope for regardless of what engine we pick is that does sees their current business model of not keeping spare parts and having enough mechanics in the shop gets corrected. I think they won’t until it hits their financial bottom line but we’ll see. That’s a ship we are all sailing on if repair parts become impossible to find.

 

I don't disagree with any of that. I flop around fear and not caring a lot in my head. The last bit, I definitely agree with. Also the parts themselves I believe are of less quality then they were before due to all the nonsense of the last few years. //// Reference to UAW removed by moderator ////

 

It will be a few more years before we can truly get away from everything made in China. Until then, just have to be patient on waiting for parts. With high interest rates, fewer people will be willing to dole out the markups on vehicles, dealers will be hurting for a while from both low inventory and lack of sales, but eventually it will turn back around.

 

It still took a long time. 2018/2019 I had my truck in for warranty and/or recalls and the drop off appointments were always a week out, but the truck sat until they could “work it in” after that, which could be another week or two.
I always called their bluff and said they had two days from the time I dropped it off until I’d be back to pick it up.

 

In 2019/2020 is the timeframe when I had my alternator and AC compressor changed and both repair visits took only 1 day. I guess owning a truck in a real truck state has it's benefits.

 

There’s only 2 Ford dealers in town. I’m sure they’ve got their work cut out for them with diesel repairs.

 

The supply chain is self inflicted? How so?

 

Just in time inventory. No one wants to stock parts anymore. They just want to order them as needed.

 

I am thinking i might try to lemon law my 2022 f450 lariat with 21k miles. The truck is been nothing but a disaster from day one. Keep thinking it will get better, but been at the dealer since last Tuesday for upper oil pan, pass rear door panel clips fell off making the door bind, radio staticky, trans still to this day hasn't been addressed properly. When I dropped it off they said the upper pan would be Done this week. Called yesterday and he said trans guy is 5-6weeks out, "they will just take care of it all then". I just said OK, screw the trans, just fix the leak and get it back asap. Still doesnt look like they have moved it yet. Tired of dealing with it. Tempted to just go say hell with it and post it for sale for 82k, tow with my f350 and wait for the 24 f450.

Other hand I did test drive a chevrolet today, (still don't like as well as a ford, and can't get a dually), but LTZ 2500 dmax. Never drove a new one before. Let me tell you, that transmission is smooth as glass! Feels just like a 17-19 6spd powerstroke. The low end torque was just as good or slightly more then the ford due to trans. Steering wheel is lighter then the ford. GM has came up a long ways since my 2011 gmc 2500. Everything i complained about in the 11 seems fixed. That being said though I for some reason am still a ford Guy "brand loyal", and will keep my 22 f350, i like the guages better, auto exhaust brake, and looks slightly better. But man I tell you they are eager beavers to sell them, and extremely nice. Way, way easier to work with then ford people. I could walk out with a damn near even swap of I wanted to. Have not seen a dealer act like this since pre 2020. Don't know if it's a sign, they see stuff slowing or not!

 

My 2020 still has nearly 100k miles of warranty left and good until 2028. So I either gamble and hope that IF the CP4 does crap out Ford will pay for the fix OR I go ahead and add a DPK and void the warranty but have a cheaper repair if the CP4 does fail.

A relative just bought a new Dodge Cummins that I think has the CP3 in it. He is way down on power as compared to me but probably way more reliable as far as the fuel system goes.

I hope that soon Bosch will come out with a new pump or Ford will change suppliers. I might even consider a new truck then..

 

Not happening……that could possibly be construed as an admission of guilt!

 

A trip up the coast to Crouse Ford in Taneytown, MD would get you some good people. Check the inventory online.

 

Ford can and will do whatever they want. Has nothing to do with guilt but with dollars. At the moment the bean counters have decided that the dollars spent on CP4 failures under warranty is cheaper that doing a redesign and going elsewhere for a new HPFP

The way I understand it is the lift pump on the Ford makes failures happen less often than the other brands and no one knows what that percentage is. I do know that the ones that posted here posted because of a failure. How many more are running without issues? Ford know that a certain percentage of the failures they can weasel out of because of rust in the fuel system. Ford will say this is the fault of the fuel suppliers or fuel stations while they could have installed a good enough water separator that water never gets into the system.

Bottom line is manufacturers change suppliers all of the time whether due to product issues, contract expired or they got a better price somewhere else.