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Old Aug 25, 2023 | 11:43 PM
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Has it been determined that the necessary repairs will be covered under one of your warranties yet?

I've been trying to follow along, but there are other concurrent failures on the forum presently, and I believe it is gascan a couple of posts above who reported his failure was covered, which got me thinking about you, and I was not able to find where you definitely have stated one way or the other. Is your case still up in the air as far as who pays?
 
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Old Aug 26, 2023 | 03:06 AM
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Where is that at???
Nothing that cheap including tax and fees anywhere around here.
Do they maybe get some corporate or some other kind of discount?
Cheapest rental near me was like $115 for 2 days for something like a corolla.
SW VA. No discounts. I gave dad a ride there to pick it up. Lot was pretty bare, so he picked out a Kia Sorento. He could have chose a Nissan Frontier for the same price, but they had a trip planned and needed the dry storage of the SUV.
Maybe they have different rates for insurance customers vs. walk-ins? I don't know.
 
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Old Aug 26, 2023 | 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by ATC Crazy
SW VA. No discounts. I gave dad a ride there to pick it up. Lot was pretty bare, so he picked out a Kia Sorento. He could have chose a Nissan Frontier for the same price, but they had a trip planned and needed the dry storage of the SUV.
Maybe they have different rates for insurance customers vs. walk-ins? I don't know.
That would be very likely! Just like in healthcare. Then, the pricing is "negotiated". No wonder our medical system is like it is. Big pharma just makes things worse when trying to get reasonable pricing.

Back on topic: Rental places are hit and miss lately, even in my rural area. Some lots are full, some with only 1 or 2 options.
 
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Old Aug 26, 2023 | 08:45 AM
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Isn't it likely that every CP4 failure results in a major issue/inconvenience for the vehicle's owner? With the apparent parts shortage, wouldn't just about every owner be in the same position of need? That said, having a Ford rep say that one's claim is being moved to the top, into a priority position, just bumps another needy person down a notch...until they become the louder voice. Kinda like wiping your butt with a hoop.
Good luck, guys!
 
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Old Aug 26, 2023 | 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by 6.2caribou
Isn't it likely that every CP4 failure results in a major issue/inconvenience for the vehicle's owner? With the apparent parts shortage, wouldn't just about every owner be in the same position of need? That said, having a Ford rep say that one's claim is being moved to the top, into a priority position, just bumps another needy person down a notch...until they become the louder voice. Kinda like wiping your butt with a hoop.
Good luck, guys!
Exactly what I was thinking. Of those who need this it, who would not need it urgently? When everyone gets bumped to priority 1 it means nothing, same as new order priorities and allocations.
 
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Old Aug 26, 2023 | 10:11 AM
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If I ran a service department or a diesel repair shop, I would have a standing order for these kits until I had some in stock. I would imagine there are orders for stock that would be bumped by a “priority” order. As it should be.
 
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Old Aug 26, 2023 | 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by ATC Crazy
Maybe they have different rates for insurance customers vs. walk-ins? I don't know.
Absolutely! Tell them your insurance is paying and it could be weeks or months. Their job is get the vehicles rented out. Most only rent for 1-3 days and they sit for 3-5 days until the next rental. You are offering them extended business.
 
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Old Aug 26, 2023 | 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by elee3
If I ran a service department or a diesel repair shop, I would have a standing order for these kits until I had some in stock. I would imagine there are orders for stock that would be bumped by a “priority” order. As it should be.
Right. But you see even most shops don’t want to fork out the money to store stuff. It’s the exact reason even a company like Ford, that does billions in revenue, only wants to order it at the moment they need it. Hence why we have parts supply problems.

I agree it’s a dumb business model and ****s the customer ultimately. Eventually they’ll either get better at it or people will stop doing business with them. There’s only 2 ways out of it for Ford. And so far their method isn’t working.

I know we like to say “they can do what they want” but that’s only true for a limited time. Eventually there’s a breaking point for enough people that they will suffer the consequences. It’s short sighted not to take care of your customers to some degree.
 
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Old Aug 26, 2023 | 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Y2KW57
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Has it been determined that the necessary repairs will be covered under one of your warranties yet?

I've been trying to follow along, but there are other concurrent failures on the forum presently, and I believe it is gascan a couple of posts above who reported his failure was covered, which got me thinking about you, and I was not able to find where you definitely have stated one way or the other. Is your case still up in the air as far as who pays?
As far as I know the warranty is covering it, the aftermarket was going to until they found out I had oem coverage, and nobody has said anything to me about the diesel care warranty not covering it.
I have talked to Ford customer care, and they had also connected me with the warranty department, and am supposed to be on priority for getting the parts.
 
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Old Aug 26, 2023 | 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by ATC Crazy
SW VA. No discounts. I gave dad a ride there to pick it up. Lot was pretty bare, so he picked out a Kia Sorento. He could have chose a Nissan Frontier for the same price, but they had a trip planned and needed the dry storage of the SUV.
Maybe they have different rates for insurance customers vs. walk-ins? I don't know.
Different rates for different areas of the country.
Those size SUV's around here would be about $75-$80 a day at the discounted rate.
 
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Old Aug 26, 2023 | 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by 6.2caribou
Isn't it likely that every CP4 failure results in a major issue/inconvenience for the vehicle's owner? With the apparent parts shortage, wouldn't just about every owner be in the same position of need? That said, having a Ford rep say that one's claim is being moved to the top, into a priority position, just bumps another needy person down a notch...until they become the louder voice. Kinda like wiping your butt with a hoop.
Good luck, guys!
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Exactly what I was thinking. Of those who need this it, who would not need it urgently? When everyone gets bumped to priority 1 it means nothing, same as new order priorities and allocations.
I would say that WARRANTY repairs would and should get the priority bump over out of warranty.
 
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Old Aug 26, 2023 | 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by elee3
If I ran a service department or a diesel repair shop, I would have a standing order for these kits until I had some in stock. I would imagine there are orders for stock that would be bumped by a “priority” order. As it should be.
Dealer where my truck is sitting, tries to keep aftermarket contamination kits on-hand for cash customers, but those kits can't be used for oem warranty repairs as Ford will not reimburse them for parts they don't supply.
 
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Old Aug 26, 2023 | 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by 6.2caribou
Isn't it likely that every CP4 failure results in a major issue/inconvenience for the vehicle's owner? With the apparent parts shortage, wouldn't just about every owner be in the same position of need? That said, having a Ford rep say that one's claim is being moved to the top, into a priority position, just bumps another needy person down a notch...until they become the louder voice. Kinda like wiping your butt with a hoop.
Good luck, guys!
I believe some dealers have higher priority for parts, but many parts are still on national back order. Had my windshield replaced at the Ford dealer back in April and even the freaking windshield was on national back order.
 
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Old Aug 26, 2023 | 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Ltngdrvr
Dealer where my truck is sitting, tries to keep aftermarket contamination kits on-hand for cash customers, but those kits can't be used for oem warranty repairs as Ford will not reimburse them for parts they don't supply.
That is rather disturbing. It appears this dealer thinks the CP4 issue is so frequent that he keeps the parts for repair on hand.
 
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Old Aug 26, 2023 | 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by texas42
That is rather disturbing. It appears this dealer thinks the CP4 issue is so frequent that he keeps the parts for repair on hand.
why is it disturbing? It doesn’t mean they think they’re “frequent” but rather that or does happen and lack of parts makes it a fiasco. It seems rather normal for a place people go to repair things to keep parts in stock

and this failure can lead to a truck being stranded so it’s proactive planning if anything. And it just might lead to a guy being able to get on the road much sooner

I wish more dealers kept more things in stock even beyond these cp4 kits. I could think of lots of parts they should keen on hand but probably dont
 
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