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Old Aug 26, 2023 | 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Rwhjr
why is it disturbing? It doesn’t mean they think they’re “frequent” but rather that or does happen and lack of parts makes it a fiasco. It seems rather normal for a place people go to repair things to keep parts in stock

and this failure can lead to a truck being stranded so it’s proactive planning if anything. And it just might lead to a guy being able to get on the road much sooner

I wish more dealers kept more things in stock even beyond these cp4 kits. I could think of lots of parts they should keen on hand but probably dont
The way I read it, the issue is wide spread enough for dealers to know, but Ford cannot supply the replacement parts, so dealers have to go aftermarket on relatively new trucks and even then, they can't use it for warranty work. It seems to me Ford doesn't give a crap about its diesel buyers enough to keep a bare minimum of spare parts in stock somewhere in the parts supply chain so when needed the dealers can at least get the OEM version within a reasonable amount of time.

Sounds disturbing to me, especially on new trucks that cost north of 60k at a bare minimum these days.
 
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Old Aug 26, 2023 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by twobelugas
The way I read it, it's disturbing in the sense that the issue is wide spread enough for dealers to know, but Ford cannot supply the replacement parts, so dealers have to go aftermarket on relatively new trucks and even then, they can't use it for warranty work. The disturbing part is Ford doesn't give a crap about its diesel buyers enough to keep a bare minimum of spare parts in stock somewhere in the parts supply chain.
oh you think it’s just diesel parts?

things down to modules, transmission replacements and windshields have been missing from a lot of dealers stock and nowhere in sight for weeks on end

I can say the first time I have a truck stranded for an unreasonable amount of time due to no parts in stock (on a new vehicle) I will not be a Ford customer ever again

not sure if other makes and models are any better but I’ll certainly be looking into it
 
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Old Aug 26, 2023 | 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Rwhjr
oh you think it’s just diesel parts?

things down to modules, transmission replacements and windshields have been missing from a lot of dealers stock and nowhere in sight for weeks on end

I can say the first time I have a truck stranded for an unreasonable amount of time due to no parts in stock (on a new vehicle) I will not be a Ford customer ever again

not sure if other makes and models are any better but I’ll certainly be looking into it
I don't think other 2 brands are any better at this point in time. With things going more electronic, it will only get worse as more and more mechanical parts become operated by a computer. The funny thing is in that 23 forum thread a lot about the new vehicle network is mentioned, a lot of things will not have an aftermarket choice as Ford starts garden walling its vehicle components and force owners to upgrade way before they really want to.
 
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Old Aug 26, 2023 | 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by twobelugas
The way I read it, the issue is wide spread enough for dealers to know, but Ford cannot supply the replacement parts, so dealers have to go aftermarket on relatively new trucks and even then, they can't use it for warranty work. It seems to me Ford doesn't give a crap about its diesel buyers enough to keep a bare minimum of spare parts in stock somewhere in the parts supply chain so when needed the dealers can at least get the OEM version within a reasonable amount of time.

Sounds disturbing to me, especially on new trucks that cost north of 60k at a bare minimum these days.
The Ford dealer I go to has been offers aftermarket parts for years now to reduce repair costs if you opt to go that route. Nothing new...
 
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Old Aug 26, 2023 | 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by texas42
That is rather disturbing. It appears this dealer thinks the CP4 issue is so frequent that he keeps the parts for repair on hand.
Service manager told me they had done 3 in the month prior to my truck coming into their shop.
 
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Old Aug 26, 2023 | 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by FishOnOne
The Ford dealer I go to has been offers aftermarket parts for years now to reduce repair costs if you opt to go that route. Nothing new...
Do you understand the difference between offering a cheaper choice for out of warranty work, versus having no choice due to Ford not being able to locate parts, warranty or otherwise? It's not like OP left his truck in Missouri because the the OEM parts were available and he didn't want factory parts.
 
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Old Aug 26, 2023 | 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by twobelugas
Do you understand the difference between offering a cheaper choice for out of warranty work, versus having no choice due to Ford not being able to locate parts, warranty or otherwise? It's not like OP left his truck in Missouri because the the OEM parts were available and he didn't want factory parts.
Had to wait ~1 month to get a Motorcraft windshield. Obviously your motive excludes other parts that are on national back order from suppliers.
 
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Old Aug 26, 2023 | 05:17 PM
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2015-125k
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2022-85k so far.
never use any additive and might go over 30k on fuel filters once in a blue moon..shhhhh.. but i do try to remember to change them around 30k.

I never knew there was an issue until last year, or maybe the year before cause i never paid attention to the cp4 threads, just thought it was idiots putting gas in or water intrusion. But it is interesting. One thing is for sure, i want to get away from ford, and dont want a crappy ram or gm. I need to stop needing to pull 14k and do so many miles. Vehicle are getting too expensive and too delicate.
 
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Old Aug 27, 2023 | 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by texas42
That is rather disturbing. It appears this dealer thinks the CP4 issue is so frequent that he keeps the parts for repair on hand.
Just because they stock those part’s doesn’t mean the pump failed due to poor quality. Someone may have put gas, def or something else in the tank accidentally.Vandalism is also a possibility. I’d rather have the parts available to get the truck going than not.
 
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Old Aug 27, 2023 | 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by twobelugas
The way I read it, the issue is wide spread enough for dealers to know, but Ford cannot supply the replacement parts, so dealers have to go aftermarket on relatively new trucks and even then, they can't use it for warranty work. It seems to me Ford doesn't give a crap about its diesel buyers enough to keep a bare minimum of spare parts in stock somewhere in the parts supply chain so when needed the dealers can at least get the OEM version within a reasonable amount of time.

Sounds disturbing to me, especially on new trucks that cost north of 60k at a bare minimum these days.
More in the news... Ford and GM can't maintain production due to parts shortages.

2023 Ford F-150 Production Impacted By Parts Shortage (fordauthority.com)

GM pauses production of most pickups amid parts shortage (freep.com)
 
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Old Aug 27, 2023 | 06:37 PM
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So there are only 3 makers of 1 ton and up trucks. They’ve figured it out, keep production low and prices high. The economy is dependent on these trucks. Ford is focusing more on the ev’s, so much so they are bringing a Chinese battery manufacturer to Ohio as a partnership…except there was a little backlash, so Farley(the actual idiot of the family) and co re-worded the partnership so it’s not actually china opening a factory here.

so not happy with ford. I do work for a retired Toyota engineer and years ago he said ford was the leader of battery technology in the auto world, but subsidies made them slow roll the tech out. I don’t mind ev’s, the push is ignorant and the infrastructure isn’t there, plus it’s a technology that needs a stable society to flourish. That only going to deteriorate in the years to come. I’m ready.
 
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Old Aug 27, 2023 | 09:07 PM
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Farley admitted that the infrastructure is no where near what it needs to be when he look his precious lightning for a trip and wound up nearly stranded.
 
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Old Aug 27, 2023 | 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by zeroo
So there are only 3 makers of 1 ton and up trucks. They’ve figured it out, keep production low and prices high. The economy is dependent on these trucks. Ford is focusing more on the ev’s, so much so they are bringing a Chinese battery manufacturer to Ohio as a partnership…except there was a little backlash, so Farley(the actual idiot of the family) and co re-worded the partnership so it’s not actually china opening a factory here.

so not happy with ford. I do work for a retired Toyota engineer and years ago he said ford was the leader of battery technology in the auto world, but subsidies made them slow roll the tech out. I don’t mind ev’s, the push is ignorant and the infrastructure isn’t there, plus it’s a technology that needs a stable society to flourish. That only going to deteriorate in the years to come. I’m ready.
Im sorry, you’re ready for what?
 
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Old Aug 28, 2023 | 05:25 AM
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Originally Posted by acdii
Farley admitted that the infrastructure is no where near what it needs to be when he look his precious lightning for a trip and wound up nearly stranded.
yup, sounds about right.
 
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Old Aug 28, 2023 | 05:55 AM
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Originally Posted by jcb206
Im sorry, you’re ready for what?
breakfast right now.
 
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