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Old Aug 18, 2023 | 11:20 PM
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Diesel trucks are so fun to drive its too bad they have become so complicated and EPA restricted. I got so close to buying a 6.7 but the fear of unlikely but very possible high dollar repairs kept me away, for now.
 
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Old Aug 19, 2023 | 12:05 AM
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Originally Posted by willynilly
you knew what you were buying so whats there to rant about
Come on Richard.
 
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Old Aug 19, 2023 | 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by scottz99
Anyone else find it ironic that Ford produces a "contamination kit" instead of solving the fuel pump problem? Calling it a "contamination kit" is just Ford's first strike at denying warranty coverage. Isn't a "contamination kit" also used to repair the damage done by a faulty fuel pump where no contamination was present?
Great observation.
The PowerlessStroke is a Ford cash cow.

First they charge $10k more for it, then they charge another $8-12k to fix it, every time it fails.

That’s genius.

And the funniest thing is, they can’t build the trucks or the contamination kits fast enough to keep up with demand!😂
 
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Old Aug 19, 2023 | 05:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Kameron Rice
100% agreed! I am not putting none of that crap on mine!, all gimmicks, i have seen one mechanic talk about how it doesn't always work in a major failure.

Also, bill at powerstroke help hits in this aftermarket crap, he said 9 times out of 10 it fixes one issue and opens up 99 other issues. The guy does it everyday, services 1,000s of trucks, he says always go with OEM!!
I know I am gonna get alot of crap from this, but SPE puts what? Maybe $1 million into R&D, (giving benefit of doubt), ford spends millions and millions, and innovates from previous years. Guarantee you failure rates are less then 1% of all super duties sold, just somebody has to get the bad one.
my 22 f450 is getting ripped apart as we speak (in peices) getting upper pan done, seems to be a fluke, somebody has to get a bad one. all mine stuff stays stock, when warranty goes it goes!
S&S DPK is the way to go. Go ahead and call it a gimmick but it works, period. OP would just be replacing his pump instead of the entire fuel system if he was running one.
 
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Old Aug 19, 2023 | 07:04 AM
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Curious how many with failures are running aftermarket or Amazon "Motorcraft" filters. Not pointing fingers or trying to shame anyone, just truly curious.
 
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Old Aug 19, 2023 | 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by IADiver
Curious how many with failures are running aftermarket or Amazon "Motorcraft" filters. Not pointing fingers or trying to shame anyone, just truly curious.
Not mine. Every single service action was handled by my dealership. Also, nothing in the mounds of external research has ever pointed a finger at filters. Go read the report in my first link....
 
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Old Aug 19, 2023 | 07:31 AM
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Not mine. Every single service action was handled by my dealership. Also, nothing in the mounds of external research has ever pointed a finger at filters. Go read the report in my first link....
As stated, not knocking anyone. The report did state "changing fuel filters ahead of schedule and use severe duty schedule". In my neck of the woods, the only failures seem to come from pumping DEF in the fuel, and that comes from all 3 brands, well except GM lift the hood to fill.
 
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Old Aug 19, 2023 | 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by IADiver
Curious how many with failures are running aftermarket or Amazon "Motorcraft" filters. Not pointing fingers or trying to shame anyone, just truly curious.
It might be a valid point. I have seen online examples of Chinese fake Motorcraft parts getting into dealer stock.
 
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Old Aug 19, 2023 | 07:50 AM
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It might be a valid point. I have seen online examples of Chinese fake Motorcraft parts getting into dealer stock.
OMG. Distract from the real issue that the CP4 is a piece of junk and Ford continues to use it. Is the "moderator" paid by Ford Corporate maybe?
 
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Old Aug 19, 2023 | 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by gascan
OMG. Distract from the real issue that the CP4 is a piece of junk and Ford continues to use it. Is the "moderator" paid by Ford Corporate maybe?
No, all moderators are unpaid volunteers. Are only rewards are comments like this.
 
Old Aug 19, 2023 | 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by gascan
OMG. Distract from the real issue that the CP4 is a piece of junk and Ford continues to use it. Is the "moderator" paid by Ford Corporate maybe?
Hey bud, I know how frustrating this ordeal is, going through this same thing on my truck right now, but you need to cool it a little, trash talking a moderator on here is a good way to get banned.
 
Old Aug 19, 2023 | 08:36 AM
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60 million CP4s have been produced.

Originally Posted by Qvan666
It really doesn't surprise me. How many trucks have been built with the CP4? Thousands, hundreds of thousands? How many failures? One here, one there and then hundreds? To the bean counters it is a good return on the purchase of the part vs failures of the part. We know that is BS but that is all Ford is looking at, is it cost effective and is there a class action suit or enough failures to support a class action suit? At Ford they really could care less as long as it is cost effective vs failure rate. There is my internet 2 cents worth of opinion today.

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by far the most widely used diesel Fuel Injection pump in history.
 
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Old Aug 19, 2023 | 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Qvan666
It really doesn't surprise me. How many trucks have been built with the CP4? Thousands, hundreds of thousands? How many failures? One here, one there and then hundreds? To the bean counters it is a good return on the purchase of the part vs failures of the part. We know that is BS but that is all Ford is looking at, is it cost effective and is there a class action suit or enough failures to support a class action suit? At Ford they really could care less as long as it is cost effective vs failure rate. There is my internet 2 cents worth of opinion today.

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The Ford Pinto is a great example of this. Ford knew that it could burst into flames if rear ended. But it was cheaper to payoff the victims then repair the problem.
 
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Old Aug 19, 2023 | 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by redfart
Does this filter the HPFP discharge to the fuel rails? If not, what stops shrapnel from exiting the HPFP discharge to the fuel rails and injectors?
From their website:
  • Safeguards fuel injectors, rails, lines, and tank from CP4 debris

 
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Old Aug 19, 2023 | 11:44 AM
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Sorry to hear…hopefully your insurance comprehensive will cover if the deal says it was fuel contamination.


 
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