CP4 Implosion!!! CRAP! CRAP! CRAP!

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Aug 18, 2023 | 07:14 PM

#16

4wd6.7L

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Originally Posted by Stan02Ranger

I haven't had my truck long, but this issue does concern me. Since this is a known issue, why is it that no class action lawsuit has been filed? This seems like something that both Bosch and Ford bear some responsibility for given the number of reports on it.

There have been several lawsuits brought on Ford, GM, and RAM over the years related to the use of the CP4. Here is some information on one. https://www.hbsslaw.com/cases/ford-c...on-pump-defect

Aug 18, 2023 | 07:36 PM

#17

09FX-4

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If only you could buy a kit to protect the rest of the fuel system

Aug 18, 2023 | 07:40 PM

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Ding126

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From: NorCal

This sucks, either the CP4 or the 10R140 transmission failures. I am tempted to walk from Ford when I am ready for another truck. Which brand? IDK

call Ford and start a claim

here is the number for Ford Social Media Team. One of the people from this group left me a number. I am sure he will send you a PM soon

Ford Social Media Team 1 (800) 392-3673

Good luck and keep us updated

Aug 18, 2023 | 07:42 PM

#19

gascan

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Originally Posted by 09FX-4

If only you could buy a kit to protect the rest of the fuel system

Should not be needed. Ford should address the root cause of the problem.

Aug 18, 2023 | 07:43 PM

#20

gascan

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Originally Posted by Ding126

Thank you.

Aug 18, 2023 | 07:58 PM

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Kameron Rice

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gascan

Should not be needed. Ford should address the root cause of the problem.

100% agreed! I am not putting none of that crap on mine!, all gimmicks, i have seen one mechanic talk about how it doesn't always work in a major failure.

Also, bill at powerstroke help hits in this aftermarket crap, he said 9 times out of 10 it fixes one issue and opens up 99 other issues. The guy does it everyday, services 1,000s of trucks, he says always go with OEM!!
I know I am gonna get alot of crap from this, but SPE puts what? Maybe $1 million into R&D, (giving benefit of doubt), ford spends millions and millions, and innovates from previous years. Guarantee you failure rates are less then 1% of all super duties sold, just somebody has to get the bad one.
my 22 f450 is getting ripped apart as we speak (in peices) getting upper pan done, seems to be a fluke, somebody has to get a bad one. all mine stuff stays stock, when warranty goes it goes!

Aug 18, 2023 | 08:11 PM

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Jmcx1969

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In contrast to the OP's fastidious care of his fuel system. I have 450000 km now on my 17 (270k miles). Not one drop of fuel additve. I run it to E EVERY tank (that's just how I roll). Three times I've coasted into the pump with 'low fuel pressure' on the display. Never touched the water drain. I've done the fuel filters four times, l think. The truck runs like new. Starts right up at -40, unplugged.

I don't know why me, a seeming abuser, would have no problems and some, who baby their rigs, have failures.

Oh, l also had a 2011 GMC dmax before the F350. Same treatment, same mileage. Trouble free.

Aug 18, 2023 | 08:26 PM

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Strider250

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Between this one and @Ltngdrvr's failure I think that I will plan on when my 2023 warranty is about up that I will swap out the CP4 for a DCR pump, it is cheaper that an extended warranty.

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Aug 18, 2023 | 08:34 PM

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ATC Crazy

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Originally Posted by Kameron Rice

Question for you, why did my 2011 have a 11.5" diff, but a 2022 f250 is sterling 10.50?
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Because the 10.5 is plenty strong enough for F250 use. I’ve never heard of an axle failure on here (aside from the failures from the bigger M275).

Aug 18, 2023 | 08:35 PM

#25

scottz99

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Anyone else find it ironic that Ford produces a "contamination kit" instead of solving the fuel pump problem? Calling it a "contamination kit" is just Ford's first strike at denying warranty coverage. Isn't a "contamination kit" also used to repair the damage done by a faulty fuel pump where no contamination was present?

Aug 18, 2023 | 08:39 PM

#26

Jmcx1969

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Quote:

Originally Posted by scottz99

Contamination could be DEF, gasoline, water or just the resultant CP4 shrapnell.

Aug 18, 2023 | 08:51 PM

#27

Qvan666

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From: Wonderful, Fun, Pahrump!

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Originally Posted by gascan

Just blows my mind that Ford continues to use that POS part.

Then the way they treat customers knowing they have an issue with that component.....

It really doesn't surprise me. How many trucks have been built with the CP4? Thousands, hundreds of thousands? How many failures? One here, one there and then hundreds? To the bean counters it is a good return on the purchase of the part vs failures of the part. We know that is BS but that is all Ford is looking at, is it cost effective and is there a class action suit or enough failures to support a class action suit? At Ford they really could care less as long as it is cost effective vs failure rate. There is my internet 2 cents worth of opinion today.

bob

Aug 18, 2023 | 09:37 PM

#28

Ltngdrvr

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Strider250

Between this one and @Ltngdrvr's failure I think that I will plan on when my 2023 warranty is about up that I will swap out the CP4 for a DCR pump, it is cheaper that an extended warranty.

Fingers crossed that it makes it to the 5 year or 100K mark!

Aug 18, 2023 | 09:41 PM

#29

Ltngdrvr

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Quote:

Originally Posted by scottz99

Mine has no contamination, other than the metal from the pump eating itself.
Ford calls them contamination kits supposedly because so many people dump DEF into the fuel tank and trash the fuel system because of it.
That was the first question the dealership guy asked me before they took it apart, whether I had put DEF in the fuel tank.

Aug 18, 2023 | 10:54 PM

#30

willynilly

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you knew what you were buying so whats there to rant about