Well, maybe US Diesel has made their own line that clears, waiting for a response to an email I sent asking about their kit.
https://usdieselparts.com/i-24083070...er-stroke.html

 

That's me. I drove heavy diesel trucks for over 20 years... pre-DEF and the other nonsense. I would no more touch a 'modern' diesel than anything.

 

most don’t consider the disaster prevention kits to be the bulletproof upgrade

the DCR is the bulletproof upgrade because it gets rid of the cp4 all together

 

Daauummm Power Stroke



Oops... wrong brand.

 

Article I found about the DCR pump

So what I didn’t realize is the pump isn’t a new pump it’s actually a proven & reliable pump itself that they worked with S&S to make it compatible with our super duties as a complete bolt-on solution with no custom fabrication or tuning needed.

just swap out the cp4 and go.







Stanadyne’s two-piston diesel common rail fuel pump (2P DCR) innovation has been selected as one of the 34 finalists for the 2023 Automotive News PACE Awards by an independent panel of program judges. The awards program, now in its 29th year, recognizes automotive suppliers for technological innovations in product or process that have reached the commercial market.

The company’s innovative, high-pressure DCR pump offers a competitive edge with its unique and robust patented eccentric drive pumping operation. Designed for unmatched durability against low-lubricity fuels and demanding service life, the Stanadyne 2P DCR fuel pump delivers power and performance with best-in-class packaging. Its low warranty rate, high-pressure and high-flow capabilities, ultra-fast response times, and compliance with the most stringent emissions standards, makes it a robust solution for original equipment manufacturers, as well as for the aftermarket.

The pump features a compact and modular design for easy integration and has a quiet sound signature due to its smooth drive technology. Its low part count makes it easy to build and its biofuel and low-lubricity fuel compatibility make it ready for the renewable fuels revolution currently under way for commercial, heavy-duty, and off-highway vehicles.

PACE judges will review the finalists representing 28 automotive companies in 11 countries and award winners will be announced at a ceremony next year. In the meantime, Stanadyne will be displaying the 2P DCR fuel pump at its Automobili-D vehicle pod during the 2023 Detroit Auto Show’s Technology Days being held September 13-14 at Huntington Place in downtown Detroit. The aftermarket version of the 2P-DCR fuel pump is now available through S&S Diesel Motorsport as a drop-in replacement solution for the Ford 6.7L Power Stroke engine.

 

I titally agree. It is so simple to separate the feeds so the pump heads get their own fuel and the pump crankcase gets it's own. To think, many companies Have a kit that does just this thing so that the garbage from a spent bearing doesn't get through to the high pressure side

The pump feeds fuel to the pump heads via the crank case. When it goes bad from either water or DEF, or the spinning of the pumps on the cam, that fine grinding and flakes goes right into the pumps, into the HP lines and into the injectors and whatever is left over goes right to the tank. The split occurs where the fuel enters the pump, it gets it's own feed, the crankcase gets it's own feed, the original factory feed. The two shall not meet so that any debris that occurs in the crankcase will get sent through the return line and into the filter. The return line does not touch the feed line. The injector side has a regulator that returns excess fuel back to the fuel filter on the newer trucks, or back to the tank on older ones but has a check valve to prevent any fuel from coming back into the HP side.

This design prevents any contamination from entering the HP fuel rails. S&S proved it in that video where they drove the truck with a damaged CP4, broke open the return filter to show the debris and then went a step further to show that none of the injectors were contaminated or damaged. You can believe it, or don't believe it, but I find the $400 is well spent insurance and when the CP4 fails in my truck I know I will not have to do a full on fuel system replacement, just swap the pump and flush the return fuel lines.

It is the furthest thing from snake oil, and had the OP done it, he wouldnt be sitting at the side of the road crying over a $10K repair bill, and a dead truck.

 

it appears me and you are the only ones with common sense!
Said that earlier, the disaster kit only works so much. I have heard them talking about it not fully working, bill at powerstroke help hits on that topic before. It the damn thing 100% grenades badly, then it will overwhelm it and still cause damage! I don't like S&S products especially that rigged up garage crap they came out with 6 months ago, that works just like a fast fuel system but without a lift pump! The genius folks forgot to think, that when you filter down to a smaller micron, yes it still might flow the same rate of fuel, but it is straining the **** out of your factory lift pump, and also small air pockets are getting in the fuel system you dont realize and going to self destruct the CP4. Only solution their would be smaller micron, larger lift pump. This is where i was talking before fix one issue and open up 99 other issues! 100% gimmick and a scam! Homemade garage ****, poor engineering. The disaster kit you install under the hood is a disaster as well waiting to happen, as it follows same suit as the other one.

Let me ask you this, ford motor company has spent billions of dollars designing, and refining these trucks every year, they know it and have way more improving grounds, millions of trucks on the road, data out the ***. No aftermarket company including gale banks can even come 1% close to their R&D department. Gale would be closest of all them. S&S has what a couple thousand test trucks? You all are going to be their test dummies when you buy this chinese made ****! ( yes "engineered" here, made and boxed in china),

The only correct fix is, leave it stock, or install a new fuel pump on the truck which again is a crap shoot and you will be the dummy for then new company!
Best bet is leave it be, if you cant sleep at night buy a duramax if your that worried about it!! IF your a ford lover for life, then buy a damn gasser, but they got their fair share of issues to, every vehicle produced has a common issue. So just run the ****er till she blows, melt it down and fix it!

 

Basically all these disaster kit allow is for a small failure. A big catastrophic failure it will do nothing. as long as there is no clogging of internal pathways which could cuase the metal fragments to back up and then enter the fuel delivery stream .

Even S&S has implied it "helps" but not guaranteed.

Here is more about S&S and other ones failing.






https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...gn-flaw-2.html

 

This doesn’t hold much clout these days. These big corporations will certainly err on the side of bottom dollar profits vs. a more robust design of X part. If they save $10M using the CP4 (for example) but project warranty claims of $6M, you’re dang right they’re going to keep using it, because they see a $4M return without having to spend another dime on a replacement.

Even little things. Hell, how much R&D did Cummins put into the 5.9? Yet go Google “killer dowel pin”.

 

Well said and my sentiments exactly.

 

you might as well go look into S&S and their background. They’re not some dude in his garage by any means.

In fact they have experience with OE engoneering

i don’t think the dpk is something I’d buy but the DCR pump on a super duty would make it a pretty solid overall truck eliminating it’s worst failure point.

 

No doubt, I got one of the last S197's, still had alum hood corrosion in the first year (and it was a garage/summer queen).
Issue had been going on since at least the 05 Stang refresh (maybe longer, I never checked).

 

Have you all noticed that @Ford Motor Company forum rep has not touched a single one of these recent CP4 failure threads, has not reached out to any of us owners offering to help???
You think maybe that is by directive from Ford corporate???

 

I contacted S&S directly on 18 August via their website contact form. The DCR won't be available for 2020+ trucks for at least another 3 months, per below.

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Message Body:

Do you make a DCR pump conversion kit for 2020+ 6.7L PowerStroke engines?
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This e-mail was sent from a contact form on S&S Diesel Motorsport (https://ssdiesel.com)

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Good afternoon,

Thank you for reaching out to us.

Our revision of our DCR kit to support 2020+ models is roughly 3 months out.

Please let us know if you have any other questions.

Thank you,

Che Brotzman
Technical Sales Representative

S&S Diesel Motorsport
SSdiesel.com | @SSfueled | #SSfueled

 

Great observation and I think your are 100% correct. They (Ford Corp) don't want to address this and it would not surprise me if customer interfacing employees have been directed as such....