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Old Jul 18, 2011 | 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by JESTERxHEAD
Last year when I pulled 273 ft......and there were 6 other trucks bone stock.... one even had dealer plates on it promoting the new 6.7....it was pretty impressive. what the hell do you mean we cant spool up?!?!?! that is quite possibly the dumbest thing I have ever heard. fine eye for an eye un-clip two injector plugs you cant run 10 cyl's...sounds just as stupid doesnt it...soooooo you are saying that we have to handicap the sissy diesels to make it fair for your monster v10?

I'd say put your money where your mouth is and go compete...its summer I'm sure there will be one around you sometime soon...see what that v10 is really made of....
Yup, go to the fair(s) every year and the only gassers there are farm tractors.....even then only some.

You wanna see some interesting pulls tho, check out some of the skidder trick pulls! Fun stuff!

And the reason diesels are so modded.... is because WE CAN, and IT WORKS. I'd like to see someone add 200hp to a V10 by dropping $1850 on injectors...

Hell, I added over 100hp by dropping in a $400 chip!
 
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Old Jul 18, 2011 | 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by exiled
Here in N. Al. Its the 6.2ls that is selling like crazy. You can get a eco boost larait CC 4x4 all day long for $33k. You have to sesrch or get on a list to get anything w/ a 6.2. So I guess its just an area thing.
Ford's sales figures don't lie. Ecoboost F150's are making up 41% of the entire production. While the 6.2L might be wanted by a few-the sales figures don't lie.They're a fact.
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Ford June Sales Up 14 Percent; Cars, Utilities Lead the Way; Fuel-Efficient... -- DEARBORN, Mich., July 1, 2011 /PRNewswire/ --
Ford’s F-Series truck remained the best-selling vehicle in the U.S. with June sales of 49,618. In the first six months of 2011, F-Series sales totaled 264,079 (up 10 percent). Sales of the F-150 with new V6 engines continued to outsell V8s in June – and V6 engines accounted for 56 percent of F-150 retail sales. The 3.5-liter EcoBoost engine accounted for 41 percent of F-150 sales, and the 3.7-liter V6 accounted for 15 percent.
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Old Jul 18, 2011 | 04:09 PM
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What he's saying is that without the advantage of a turbo, the diesel has no low-end.

If you were to graph torque versus TIME instead of RPM, it would be obvious.

Why it matters overall, I don't know
That's kind of like making the argument that if a V10 didn't have spark plugs it wouldn't win a race. Since a Diesel doesn't ahve spark plugs then to be fair the V10 should have to race without them.

Pappy you have this dreamland idea that there is turbo lag, sure it about 10th of a second. From a spool up start my truck turns 1.8 second 60ft times (comparable to some drag cars BTW, my 67 galaxie runing MT slicks with a built 406 turns 1.7+ 60ft) from an idle start I slow down to a really poor 1.9-2.0 oh my. BTW most V10s I have raced are about my drivers door at the 60ft timers, and never had one beat me in a 1/8th mile drag race yet. Had some 6.0s and duramaxes do it though.

Also last truck pulls I was in, the winners were in order of the trucks there. A dodge cummins dually (had the advantae of dual wheels) a 6.0psd F250, My 7.3 F250, a 460 powered 79 F250, Chev duramax then 2 V10s then a couple smaller trucks like a dodge hemi and a 5.4 ford....... but I am sure it was all just the drivers and cause the diesel guys weren't forced to not spool their turbos up before taking off..... Oh wait, I didn't spool up cause didn't want to break it loose instantly.

Pappy, there is not enough "lag" for you to beat a diesel and when towing down the road it's a non issue anyway as the turbo IS spooled up (cruise I am always running a couple pounds of boost)
 
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Old Jul 18, 2011 | 04:16 PM
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You have to sesrch or get on a list to get anything w/ a 6.2. So I guess its just an area thing.
here they have had a 6.2 sitting on the lot since Ford sent it to them without them ordering it at the start of the year. No one wants it. They have sold all 3 eco boost F150s they got within a wk or two of them being unloaded from teh truck.

They did have a dealer in Florida call and ask if it was avalable and was going to come up and get it but changed their mind. So if you really want one I can hook you right up LOL. (I suppose the fact that the window sticker shows a 45k price tag MIGHT have something to do with it sitting there and the ecoboosts are running mid 30s)
 
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Old Jul 18, 2011 | 04:18 PM
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For the same money a V10 would destroy your truck in a race.
You have more money in your V10 than I have in my old azz 7.3 w/ 340k miles on it. Just sayin. My truck even broke down on me once... The dam batteries played out one day and I had to get new ones. It was bad news bears!!!
 
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Old Jul 18, 2011 | 04:38 PM
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All I know is I am happy with my 2010 V-10 XLT Crew Cab 4X4 I picked up 2 months ago with 26,000 miles on it, I have gotten 13 miles per gallon on long trips doing 75, 11mpg around town, and pulled a 7500lb trailer from FL. to TN and back averaged around 9-10mpg. my coumputer runs .4 mpg higher then it really runs.

Now do I have anything against Diesel , wish I could of afforded one,but for $25,000 for what I paid I passed on the Diesel. At the dealer today truck is still at their hard time starting today ( I think its the battery still under warranty) I was asking him what the price difference for my oil change and the new Diesel was surprised they charge $30 for mine and $90 for the diesel (I have no ideal what he was talking about with the fuel caps having 2 of them and why its $90)
But with Diesel in my area 30 cents a gallon more and the higher maintenance cost its a wash til we get close to the 200,000 mileage range then the Diesel will pull away. and I will never pull more then 10,000 lbs.
Did also ask him what is the average MPG on the new Diesels they have come in for service he says 17-18 not towing
 
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Old Jul 18, 2011 | 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Johnny Langton
Ford's sales figures don't lie. Ecoboost F150's are making up 41% of the entire production. While the 6.2L might be wanted by a few-the sales figures don't lie.They're a fact.
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Ford June Sales Up 14 Percent; Cars, Utilities Lead the Way; Fuel-Efficient... -- DEARBORN, Mich., July 1, 2011 /PRNewswire/ --

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That's 41% over the whole world. I was just saying that the 6.2l sell better in N Al. Not in general. What part of what I said did you not understand? I didn't say you was lieing. The dealerships around here know what their selling. Just thursday when I was at the dealership getting my wheels and ties put on I was talking w/ our saleman about a 6.2l f150 limited. I guess you think that has to be 41% in every area. The funny thing is out of 22 f150s they have 10 is ecoboost and 12 is 5.0l. Not a single 6.2 and not a single truck is being sold. They have a list of people already trying to get 6.2l. Surely to God you don't think the dealership is really trying to push something it doesn't have. Oh they are trying to put people in ecoboost and 5.0ls. I can see the ecoboost gaining sales cause of the shortage of 6.2l and not all dealerships stock 20+ trucks. Ironic as it is the 5.0 is the baby of pack. So I can see the peckng order with 6.2l engines being slow in production that the ecoboost gaining momentum. Of course Ford needs to sell em. Being that the f150 is the only chassis its going into. W/ the mustang haveing the 5.0l and SD the 6.2l its not that critial for Ford to push delivery of those engines innthe F150. My saleman said he might not even beable to order a 2011 w/ a 6.2l. He's tried and they are held of.
 
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Old Jul 18, 2011 | 05:35 PM
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here they have had a 6.2 sitting on the lot since Ford sent it to them without them ordering it at the start of the year. No one wants it. They have sold all 3 eco boost F150s they got within a wk or two of them being unloaded from teh truck.

They did have a dealer in Florida call and ask if it was avalable and was going to come up and get it but changed their mind. So if you really want one I can hook you right up LOL. (I suppose the fact that the window sticker shows a 45k price tag MIGHT have something to do with it sitting there and the ecoboosts are running mid 30s)
Where's that at and is it 4x4? My sister is looking for 1. I'm taking it that since the sticker is that high its a limited?
Your really on to something with the pricing. My wife really wanted a SD because of the looks but was worried about the price. When we where shopping. The laraits f150s where running $38k the limited $40k. We gave $45k for hers and that's with the tannue cover and reese tow pkg. So really she only gave about $2k more for her SD than the limited. Her SD will hold more of it value and its what she wanted.
I think the ecoboost makes the most sense when buying a F150. If I was buying 1 that's what I would buy. $33k for a cc f150 xlt 4x4 isn't bad at all. My sister however thinks otherwise. At the moment she's driving my f150. She had another kid and her tauris just doesn't have room for 4 kids. I thought a focus would have been a good way to go but she don't like em. Go figure.
 
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Old Jul 18, 2011 | 05:59 PM
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I personally am seriously considering getting an F150 eco-boost. The wife wants an Edge, but I think I could sell her an F150 instead
 
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Old Jul 18, 2011 | 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by parkland
A few v10's and 5.4's are having issues with the top end wearing out to the extent that the entire engine is replaced because of low compression and oil pressure.
Originally Posted by plgebbia

And, BTW Bill, There is no way dollar for dollar a V10 will ever beat a 6.4L in a drag race. Never, ever.
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Originally Posted by strokin'_tatsch
You have more money in your V10 than I have in my old azz 7.3 w/ 340k miles on it. Just sayin. My truck even broke down on me once... The dam batteries played out one day and I had to get new ones. It was bad news bears!!!
How much do you have in your 7.3?
 
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Old Jul 18, 2011 | 06:00 PM
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(Moderator hat on)...

This thread is in SERIOUS jeopardy of getting closed.

I mean, I am 99% away from it.

Either everyone calm down, and talk FACTS and OPINIONS without calling each other names, or this thread goes down as a testament to everyone's childishness
 
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Old Jul 18, 2011 | 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by monsterbaby
here they have had a 6.2 sitting on the lot since Ford sent it to them without them ordering it at the start of the year. No one wants it. They have sold all 3 eco boost F150s they got within a wk or two of them being unloaded from teh truck.

They did have a dealer in Florida call and ask if it was avalable and was going to come up and get it but changed their mind. So if you really want one I can hook you right up LOL. (I suppose the fact that the window sticker shows a 45k price tag MIGHT have something to do with it sitting there and the ecoboosts are running mid 30s)
The price tag, configuration limits and salesman pushing the EB are the reason the 6.2l 150s are selling less IMO. My neighbor bought a new EB 150 Screw and is all chipper and spouts of his mpg figures any chance he gets, which I know are a huge exageration.

You can't get the 6.2l in a reg cab, XL or XLT truck. Can only get a SC or Screw in Lariet and up trim level with the 6.2l. So yeah your basically looking over $40k+ for a 150 which is nuts. I'd take a 6.2l 150 over an EB 150 any day of the week. I'd even take the 5.0l over it.
 
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Old Jul 18, 2011 | 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Krewat
(Moderator hat on)...

This thread is in SERIOUS jeopardy of getting closed.

I mean, I am 99% away from it.

Either everyone calm down, and talk FACTS and OPINIONS without calling each other names, or this thread goes down as a testament to everyone's childishness

Calm down. Facts are boring, opinions are useless, criticism is freaking hilarious!



However I did find out the one and only problem older diesels have. Behind a 7.3 about 30 minutes ago in the hardees drive threw and noticed he had to shut the truck off to put his order in.
 
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Old Jul 18, 2011 | 06:39 PM
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Calm down. Facts are boring, opinions are useless, criticism is freaking hilarious!


However I did find out the one and only problem older diesels have. Behind a 7.3 about 30 minutes ago in the hardees drive threw and noticed he had to shut the truck off to put his order in.
Yep. I never use a drivethru. Usually the little girl can't hear me, and I darn sure can't hear her.
 
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Old Jul 18, 2011 | 06:43 PM
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You guys do think negative.
I think positive. The noise of 7.3 is very helpful when you mother in law calls you.
 
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