More frequent oil changes. Turbos make a lot of heat on the oil, and unless you are going to increase the capacity of your oil, and add a bigger pump you're going to burn your engine up. Ask the ricer crowd what happens when they add turbos to Honda's.

To whoever was talking about putting a 6.0 turbo on a V10....GO FOR IT. Let me know how long your aluminum heads stay on. You boost a V10 with a 6.0 turbo and you're going to break something. You'd have to detune it to where the turbo would be more for noise than anything else and you'd HAVE TO put a waste gate on it, which a 6.0 doesn't have, along with much more since your V10's aren't direct injection. You'd be nothing but pre-det. Everyone says you can do it, so DO IT. I haven't seen one yet. You'd be "original".

To the "nobody makes a kit for a V10, so the price is moot" guy: What, you're saying it would be CHEAPER because no kit is made for one? Puleeze. There's not a lot of room under your hoods already, so just fitting one would be a biatch. And lastly, who cares about how much more a diesel costs? Yep, the gasser crowd does. I don't. My diesel will easily go 300k with regular maintenance, for a lot cheaper than it would be in a gasser....Deal with it. Go ahead and turbo one, then post up your TRUE costs...It will be a LOT more fuel, a lot more money, and a lot more maintenance.

 

I would think a centri would be the way to go. No hurt on gas mileage until you get into it. They are not hard to custom install, dont know if there is a v10 kit.

 

I can keep the torque converter locked all the way down to ~900 RPMs in manual mode. Push the pedal to the floor and it just grunts and slowly accelerates.

While we all like to think this, I believe the truth is somewhat less than that. Does anyone here know of a 6.0L that has seen 300,000 miles without engine work?

The 6.4L may be a vastly improved design but is still a bored out 6.0L. I wouldn't bet you'd see that much without replacing the HPFP, EGR coolers, tubos, etc. The 6.4L also has a disadvantage for longevity with the regen cycle which cooks the EGTs up to 1200 degrees every tank.

Not saying that my 6.7L will be any better either. Remember that the days of the relatively simple and reliable diesel engine are gone.

 

As usual, not much but senseless stuff in one of your posts.
"Ask the ricer crowd what happens..." Well, they get awfully fast, that's what happens. There's an AWD turbo Mitsubishi here at the local strip that is eating pretty much every street-driven musclecar alive, and it's nearly stock. Trust me, the turbo on your engine is what gives it power, not some inherant property of the diesel engine.
As for aluminum heads not holding up to blown motors, where have you been the last 40 years? Nearly all performance engines have had aluminum heads for many, many years and I'd say the failure rate is far less than the failure rate of (for example) 6.4 diesel Fords.
Your diesel will not go 300K miles without pumping some big dollars into it, deal with that. It's what, 3 years old? Yet you talk about reliablity as if you even know what the word means. Shut up about it already, you're driving a time bomb.
Also, there are lots and lots of companies that sell kits to put a turbo on any motor you can think of, and while I realize your experience in modifying cars and trucks is nearly non-existant, here's a little tidbit for you: the turbo need not go under the hood. Modern Corvettes that have aftermarket turbos have them mounted just ahead of the rear license plate for crissake! Of course, you already knew that, didn't you?

 

I'm sure they had a hidden agenda, in fact they probably pulled in your fabled Vail Pass just to **** you off, didn't they?

 

Um, nobody is suggesting a 6.0l turbo be used. The intercooler from the 6.0l and some of the plumbing pieces CAN be used. A turbo system with plumbing can be fit under the hood of a V10 SD, it has been done numerous times in the past. With labor (at a "speed" shop) a custom turbo or SC install will cost well over $5k, however anyone with the knowhow can build their own system for much less as I said. It is obvious you have very little knowledge or grasp of how a forced induction system works.

Keep up the typical diesel ignorance, your good at it. Post up when YOUR 6.4l hits 300k miles. My guess is you will unload the truck long before then and another truck will be "The Best".

 

You know absolutely nothing. That's why you continue to try and verbally berate everyone who disagrees with you. That's why your posts get reported so frequently. One of these days, you'll get banned.

 

You pull it at that, but do you start from a standstill at the bottom like they did? Of course not. I think what the test showed is the Chevy can sustain higher egts (which is true of every dmax since Ford came out wit the 6.0). So the ford defueling earlier than chevy from heat, and the 450 is probably detuned from 350, the 400/800 is meaningless. And Chevy has practically had 10 years of history to learn tuning on this engine while the Ford has 6 months.

I would imagine that is why Ford declined, they need more testing. But the cool thing about diesels, really easy to change the tuning to match what they want. And Fords have a huge following of SCT programmers to make trucks run how they should. My 6.0 was stellar after the SCT tune, I am sure the 6.7 will get is done right.

 

Great post....

 

But yet again, you don't read and respond to the post. You just run your mouth which proves you know nothing about vehicles.

The oil gets hot, and will caramel. (Your response to that is useless babbling) your second response is "it makes honda's fast". Ummm, it blows the heads off of them until they get it dialed in, and also decreases the longevity of the engine. (That is the correct answer)

Diesels will go 300k with regular maintenance. It's not my fault if your V10, or your Honda burn up with less than that. You leave out one thing when you're trying to make me sound stupid, which really shows that you in fact, are. My engine was designed to run with a turbo. It wasn't built, dyno'd, and then had a turbo bolted to it as an afterthought. It was designed to run like that. Your V10 was NOT. When you start putting blowers or turbos on motors not designed for them, things typically break as they can't handle it. On a V10, the most logical point will be where the compression is highest, and metal is weakest...where would that be? Yes, the heads. For you to insinuate that a V10 head has anything in common with a racing engine is laughable, if not downright scary. I guess that's why Ford uses engineers to develop engines instead of you.

Lastly, no; I've never seen a turbo back by the rear license plate in anything other than a mid-engine application. Squires Turbo systems claimed to make one like that for the Vette's, but they were the ONLY company who did, and all of their turbos are remote mounts, basically suck, and run 8-9 large. They DO make a "Universal Kit" for 2-grand, but I doubt you'd want to put that on a Z06 Vette, or a V10. Again, more embellishment on your part by implying all modern vettes mount them back there. Great spot for one on a V10 though...Nothing would ever go wrong back there...

 

90% of my work is up and down I70 and all the County Roads in the mountains. I stop all over the place and go uphill from there. Or downhill. I've seen several 11's towing TT's and they're going much faster than 51mph. Anywhere you pull off up there, you'll be starting on a hill, so I'm not sure what you think I70 looks like?

 

Yeah, I hear that, but do you start the bottom of vail pass from a standstill or are you at speed when you start that pass?

 

I know of a few 6.0 ovef 300k w/ any engine work. We're looking at 3 right now for my brother. Electric company is selling 3. An 04, 2 05s. We got the oasiss pulled friday. The 04 has 372k miles and the 05s has 324k and 329k miles. We prolly get the 05 w/ 324k. He likes it more. It appears to be a admarilo model. Even though it was a work truck it was a engineers and took real good care of. I'd like to have it my self. My brother got em down to $12000. He'll find out monday if the Bank will loan the money on it.
Why do you think diesels aren't reliable any more? There's a lot of units that are trouble free. Everybody knows the first 6.0s had a lot of trouble. What made things worest was techs didn't know enough about the engine and threw parts at it. Blah blah. Owners where tuninf. Their trucks too agressive and that created a lot of problems. Ford got most problems ironed out dispite their problems w/ international. The problems we read about is just a small fraction of units being driven. Diesels make up 80% of superduty sales. If they where the unreliable machines some put them out to be Ford would drop em. In 04 Ford bought back 200 units. That right around 15% of diesel sale. 71 units in 05 and 25 in 06. Sure I think there was units that could have been bought back but ghe owners just fixed it or traded em off. My point is that I think you have less than a 10% chance of getting ahold of a bad unit. You probally have a greater chance of haveing a wreck and totaling the truck.

 

You do realize an Oasis does not necessarily show all work performed? Any work done by a private shop or an individual may/will not show up. After the warrenty is expired there is little to no incentive to take the truck back to the dealer for service.

It doesn't matter how much of a piece of crap something is, if Ford (or any other company) can sell them and make money on them they will continue to do so.

 

Depends. If you're leaving Dillon heading East, you start from a signal at the on-ramp, and it's onto the hill. You might make it on a green light, doing 15mph around the corner, but you won't be at speed, let alone 55mph or higher. Heading West there are 6-8% grades everywhere between Avon and the pass. That goes on for miles. Vail Pass has several towns on the North and South sides of the Interstate, most notably, Vail and Breckenridge. Leaving from either of those onto the Interstate, you're going up the pass (or down the pass depending on direction of travel) from a stop. The speed limit is 55 and 65 going up from either side, but everybody just floors it and goes as fast as they can heading up from either side. It could be the EGT's causing the 6.7 to be slower, and I'm not arguing that. I am arguing the premise of the test, and I'm sure Chevrolet did a lot of their own testing before deciding on that hill to challenge Ford. Hell, I can beat a Z06 Corvette....off-road....or in 6" of snow.