This I can definitely agree too! Sorry fellas, the PSD can't hold a candle to a Cummins

 

Good stuff in this thread. Both engines are good IMO. I like my V10, although I'd much rather pull a load with a Diesel. That said, I am hoping to find something heavy to latch onto with this truck and see what she'll do!



/ can't wait to do the Cummins Conversion

 

So does a gear-reduction starter, and yet, your diesel has one of those

But then, so does my V10.

 

when a person says that the trucks need to have equal gears to be a true test is not thinking.


maybe there should be a test with 5:29 gears then.
when the 6.0 is pegged at redline the v10 would have lots left.



The theory is flawed. each engine operates it's best at diffrent rpm's.
therefore diffrent gearing is needed to keep both engines at their peak rpm range.

how is that hard to understand.

At the end of the day, most would probably agree the diesel would make the best towing truck, (generally nicer towing behavior)

at the same time, the v10 is a very capable engine too. It will do the same jobs as the diesel.

Imo there are a few reasons that guys pick the v10.


1.short trips
2.many thousands cheaper to purchase.
3. don't like the smell/noise.
and the main reason I would choose a gasser.

they are more reliable these days that the current ford diesels.
the 6.0 has a hellish reputation. I wouldn't dream of owning a '03/04.
even the 05-07 would make me real uncomfortable.

the v10 on the other hand has a rock solid reputation.


imo, dodge has benefitted the most from the 6.0 disaster.



(as a side issue) to say your truck is faster, is the most juvenile bs I've read in a while.


who cares?. I bought a truck not a rice rocket. A dodge of chevy diesel will kick the living hell out of the psd anyway.
If you wanted a $50'000 drag racer, you should have bought a dodge.

 

If you want to go fast, you'd be best to spend that money on a car, or a motorcycle.

Personally, I like the 7.3's, but have nothing against the V-10's either.

 

jazz you soung real dumb right now. If you read any of my posts, you would have noticed i was joking. Who would seriously want to hook two motors up.lol
As far as me buying a dodge to race, i did, and its real fast.lol I have nothing against a v10, just not my style. I used to think the 6.0 was a disater too, till i randomly decided to buy one, and i love it. It may have a few querks from the factory, but with a little TLC it is very very capable of big numbers.

 

if you wan to compare them the best you can and keep the test very simple and accurate here is what you do. put 4.30's in both the v10 and the psd. yes i know the psd doesnt come with 4.30s but they can be bought and put in. thenhave them run the 1/4 mile. then if you want to see how much sorry the v10 is still attach a big *** trailer with 20k lbs on it and tow again down the strip (that would be the 1/4 mile drag strip). then take the nu,bers of who got there faster and you have your winner. yes the psd can even be tested on the road with these gears as thats what the 450's and 550's have. so run them on the open road too. the only one of these tests that the v10 will win will be the one on the open road and that would be barely. put 3.73's in both trucks and ill take the psd in all tests. then factor in the fact that the psd has just won 5 out of 6 tests and got 5mpg more if your using any of the psd's other than the 6.4 2mpg if you have a 6.4 and the psd is a clear winner. THE PEOPLE ON HERE THAT CLAIM THEIR V10 IS BETTER ARE JUST TOO POOR OR CHEAP TO BUY A REAL MANS TRUCK!!

 

Yeah, that's what I bought my V10 for! I spend a lot of time on the dragstrip pulling our 14K 5er! How far out can one get? And where O where did the common sense go? Most of those who own a diesel are happy...most of us who own a V10 are happy....where's the problem? Who cares which one is "best"? Best for what? In the end we're all driving a FORD, aren't we?

 

MYTH. How is that hard to understand? Let's hear facts about failures from short trips in diesels. Hundreds of millions of them exist and are used across the world as "grocery getters" without any kind of problems. As said before, the reputation largely comes from America's fear of diesel for private applications and the mistaken belief/boasting of diesel owners in the States that they own something exotic.

 

Why would you limit a test to 1/4 mile, or gears to 4.30. Why not go 5.38 or lower in both trucks and run them 50 miles and see who gets there first? Seems as valid as any other test. What do you think the top speed of the PSD will be? Think it'll be bouncing off the rev limiter? Add grades to the 10 miles of course, and blah blah blah. I think all the tests should benefit the PSD so the PSD owners don't feel cheated and their egos can get stroked

 

how is that benifitting the psd. v10 guys have already said that the psd is better with 373's and the v10 is better with 430's
im sayin put 430's in both trucks this should favor you guys with v10s.
then run them through the 3 tests. 1/4 dry 1/4 pulling then as you wish 50 mile pulling. and no ******* the psd would not be bouncing off the rev limiter. and the only test the v10 would win would be the 50 miles of pulling but i know it would be closer than you think and if you stick to the speed limit the psd would win and get better mpg.
and as far as running both trucks with 373s forget about it the psd wins with no problem.

 

Even if your PSD is
Maybe you should make sure your own vehicle is functioning properly before you come here carrying on about how much better a PSD is when your truck has this "smoking" issue that you can't figure out.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/8...ack-smoke.html

JL

 

Aren't we getting a little carried away? After all, your PSD already lost one contest....I bought a V10. But I guess I will start frequenting the local dragstrips, Seeing trucks towing 5ers drag racing would be......cool?

 

even with the smoking issue i would still bet that it beats your v10

 

My point was a post like: [insert test], and my [insert whichever truck] set up with [insert configuration] will kick your truck's *ss is meaningless because the next guy inserts different information and all of the sudden a different truck kicks *ss. So, why not come up with a test like, tow your trailer to the coast and open me a beer, if I get there first I'll do the same, because you know what, the beer will still be cold as the other person (whether it's you or me) comes around the corner and backs his/her trailer into the spot. Then you can beat someone in a made up race with a made up truck configuration and get all excited because that somehow validates you have the "better" truck. The V10 is better, it just is, so as soon as you realize it and become assimilate the better