Really? You had to post that pic on a Ford truck message board? That's just wrong! Please tell me the chevy isn't actually hooked to the trailer, it's just parked there before a real truck can come do the job.

 

Those 6.5 chev diesels had power and torque numbers that make v10 owners AND powerstroke owners drool over.

 

Thats what I noticed also. Closet station gasbuddy lists that has been updated in the last 24 hours is 15 miles away from me. There are dozens of stations within less than 15 miles from where I live. I found gasbuddy is basically worthless for me, esp4ecially since prices can change 2 or 3 times in less than 24hrs depending on how oil/gas is trading.

 

Diesel will soon again get another boost in mileage, soon, north america will be having minimum ethanol content in gasoline. It already has in some areas of USA & Canada. When this is all said and done, expect gas mileage to drop. We have 10% ethanol here, and mileage of gasoline vehicles has dropped a lot more than 10% even though in the media it was explained that mileage would remain unaffected. I don't want to get into exact specifics, but a few years ago I happened to be in the right place at the right time, and was explained the cost of diesel. When diesel here was 89 cents/ liter, the actual cost per liter from the refinery was 12 cents / liter. The rest was delivery, tax, and profit. It is safe to assume it is reaching the shores of china for far less than what anyone in NA is paying at the pump. IMHO diesel is nearing the upper cap of cost, not because of less demand, but because of alternatives. Oil algae being a good example. There are too many alternatives that are capable of producing oil unconventionally. They are hurting right now because of interest, but hike the price far enough on diesel, and all of a sudden you'll see new investments and interest in those companies. You can also bet the oil companies themselves will invest in that when it becomes feasible and profitable. These technologies can produce diesel that gets good mileage, unlike ethanol that is such a joke of government grant cash its not even funny. My point is that there are some great alternative technologies for diesel production, just slightly out of reach at the current price point. I believe the oil companies would try to sell it at this point as long as possible to keep emerging companies from even getting started.

 

People love when I post that picture here!

The chev has a 350.

 

Preference might not be the right word since there is GasBuddy or nothing to chose from. I save thousands of dollars thanks to those guys. Amazingly how in the area with prices well over $4 I can always find station 2 miles off my route that sells diesel for $3,79. On occasions when I carry my 100 gallons extra tank, I can save $50 on single fill up. Convenience of not needing another station for 1000 miles is hard to beat. Also since I live in area with highest fuel prices in the country, I bring diesel from Nevada, or Colorado for our sedans whenever I can..
GasBuddy is great tool and like each tool needs skilled operator. If in times when fuel prices change twice daily, you program the site to show the prices from last 48 hr, you will be doomed.

 

Anyone buying that much fuel should be looking at an on site tank.

We had a 10,000 gallon one, and only saved about 5-10% but it saved a lot of time going to fill trucks up, you could fill right on site. Definitely paid for itself already.

 

I researched fuel (diesel) a few years ago when there was big conversations on the boards over uld.
What I found out why diesel cost more now is because prior to the low diesel, diesel was just byproducts put into a fuel. With low and ultra low it cost more to manufacture than it use to. Old diesel really didn't have a standard. From batch to batch it could have different additives and cetane levels. To have clean stable fuel it cost money. These days you have a quilty standard for your fuel. Its good thing and I have no problem paying the price.

 

Someone posted it already that it cost like 12 or 20 cent to produce a gallon of diesel. The rest of the price is distribution cost and BIG OIL PROFITS.
No wonder they can "donate" the politicians in all the campaigns.
If you ask me >>> I am not happy where my money goes.

 

Thats why it would be nice to see new alternative technology take off.

Unfortunately I'd bet every last cent I have that the oil companies will either buy these companies for profit of their own, or to develop patents and bury it making it impossible for anyone else to threaten their stronghold.

 

Don't worry, it will surface like 40 or 50 years later. That is what happened with household fluorescent lights and LEDs.

 

I do a lot of business with LED's, for solar projects.

Whats truly amazing is how much I used to pay for them before I started ordering direct from the factory. Sorry in advance for language, but when you pay 100$ for a 15$ part, you feel rather raped.

Why should I pay top dollar to a USA or Canada company, when it says "Made in China" on the back?

A lot of cool ideas and products are held back because someone either feels that their current product is threatened, or that the idea / product might change the market for their current product beyond their comfort zone.

 

But you do pay $4 for fuel that cost 20 cents at the manufacturer?

 

Not if I could find a way around it.

I actually usually get diesel for free, so when it comes to MY choice of truck, I have quite an advantage why I wouldn't have a gas truck.

 

That might have been the case in the 70's and 80's but not now. The retail price of diesel in the US right now is broken down as 64% crude,21% refinery,10% excise tax (state and fed), and 5% retailer. Its costing the refinery $3.50 g to make the fuel. We live inna world now that by products cost more than the whole product.