Gas vs PSD
More Turbo
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uummm.....i think crazy001 just said that. echo....echo....echo
and besides like i said, i won't ever buy a new truck. whether it be a V10 or a diesel. they're both too much for me to swallow, especially when i know first hand that if you are patient, you'll run across a good deal on something used that someone else already took the hit on it. no offense crazy001.
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From late in model year 2002, up to 2004, the 2-valvers are very safe. And even then, you have nothing to worry about. I have a short-thread 2-valver, and I am not in the least worried.
You have about the same chance of running something over in the road and taking out the oil filter (or the pan itself) and running the oil out of the motor.
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From: Auburn, Wa
Kind of ironic a V10 owner would say mods for a diesel are ridiculously expensive
You do remember the V10 came with the 4R100 too right? I have driven quite a few of these and they were painfully slow towing the hills around here. Make sure you stop at the top of every hill to helicoil your plugs back in.
Didn't you hear? The brakes on the diesels are smaller and the turbos will implode if you drive your truck up hills without stopping at the top. I guess he
she go to the trucking forums and spread the word that everyone must stop at
the top of a hill and let the turbo cool.
That statement wins for "Most Ignorant" statement of the year on this board so far.
You do remember the V10 came with the 4R100 too right? I have driven quite a few of these and they were painfully slow towing the hills around here. Make sure you stop at the top of every hill to helicoil your plugs back in. Didn't you hear? The brakes on the diesels are smaller and the turbos will implode if you drive your truck up hills without stopping at the top. I guess he
she go to the trucking forums and spread the word that everyone must stop at
the top of a hill and let the turbo cool.
That statement wins for "Most Ignorant" statement of the year on this board so far.
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You mean the one you edited down so it would make less sense?
Posting Guru
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No it was edited for purposes of fitting into my sig. And the edited out part has nothing to do with it being contradictary to its self. He is trying to describe the difference between HP and TQ however he mixes them up easily and gave me a great quote for my Sig.
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That's actually why my other truck is a 5.4 instead of a v10. I had a new v10 picked out and was ready to buy it, but came across my 5.4 at an estate sale. I got the truck and a car hauler for less than half of what the truck booked for.
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Your editing says more about you than it does about Lead Head.
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My worry isn't about how well I maintain my vehicle or my skill level. I just don't want to get one that wasn't put in right at the factory by the guy that knows nothing about working on an engine. Then I am stuck with the bill for a problem that happens at 20k miles and isn't covered by warranty. If the plugs are supposed to be changed at 80k miles and one blows out at 50k miles, then I think Ford should have to pay to fix it (as long as the plugs haven't been changed). If it was their plug put in by their employee then it should be their responsibility to fix it.
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Lead Driver
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From: San Diego, CA
Power to them if that's what they want to do. Sure I'd love to get almost 30mpg, but I didn't buy my 4 ton, non-aerodynamic, 4WD to sip fuel. While I may not impress anybody with 13.5mpg overall, I sure have a good time doing it!
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Was there a change in the thread design in 2002? My 5.4 is a 2000 and I haven't had any trouble out of it. It only has 35k miles on it, but about 20k of those have came with between 8-15k lbs hooked to it. I didn't know about the plug problems when I bought it and have been hesitant to buy another once since I found out.
December 1996 - 4.6L 4V alignment feature added
February 1997 - 4.6L 2V head alignment feature added
September 2000 - WEP (Windsor Engine Plant) 2V head alignment feature modified (4.6/5.4/6.8)
November 2002 - WEP introduced long thread heads on 2V (all)
May 2003 - REP (Romeo Engine Plant) introduced long-thread heads on 4V 4.6 and 5.4
November 2003 - REP introduced long-thread heads on 2V and modified alignment feature
In 1999, and 2001, an interim fix was done for a cross-threading issue.
Original process:
Step 1 - Zero torque spark plug (air tool)
Step 2 - Torque to 16-20Nm final torque (DC Run down), monitor at 6-12Nm, and final torque must be reached within 0-360 degrees.
New process (addressed the possibility of applying installation torque for more than 25 degrees of rotation)
Step 1 - Zero torque spark plug (air tool)
Step 2 - Torque to 16-20Nm final torque (DC Run down) start monitor at 6-12Nm, and final torque must be reached within 3-25 degrees.
Another action to address cross-threading was the addition of an alignment feature to lead the plug into the hole.
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You cut off the most important part of what I said, it went from being correct to just making no sense at all.
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More Turbo
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It is ridiculous, isnt it. The fact is, we all have some badass trucks. We just have different opinions on which one is a better work truck/daily driver.
I do think its awesome that this thread has almost 4,000 posts! Never seen one bigger.
I do think its awesome that this thread has almost 4,000 posts! Never seen one bigger.