Gas vs PSD
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Just cant resist......My pops has an 1980 one owner heavy 3/4 chevy manuall punched big block straight pipes FUN LOUD lots of power. He bought a v10 ex a couple years back to replace the 3/4 big block burb upon the first hunting trip 400+miles accross NE with 10 days worth of supplies and 2 jeeps on the trailer 4 bodies in the cab. OMG he couldnt say enough about the power and pulling of the v10. I bought a 05cc psd. We dont talk trucks anymore now we talk about the other cars he has built and owns 4 of them real fast all big blocks but no truck talk anymore, NONE not a word.
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it is perfectly capable for a 7.3 to get 28mpg if you did it right. wouldnt have anything for power though. 2wd with a 6 speed and the right gears with injectors and tuning. wouldnt be that hard actually
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I hear you about the 7.3. I had a 1997 and a 2002. Both were great trucks, but both did have some issues and I was forever doing some kind of "mod" to make it just a little bit better. Seems if you once start, you'll spend a months salary just to take care of the next "step". That being said, both of my 7.3's hauled a 40' tank of a 5th wheel (Carriage) all over the western states losing 2 tranny's, stopping at the top of mountains to let either the tranny or the turbo cool off and then head down hill when my brakes were getting hot and I wound up going 90 and praying that the back end would stay behind me.
With this V-10 and the Torqueshift, towing is a piece of cake. The only diesel Ford engines with the TS tranny are the 6 leaker and the "new" 6.4. Sorry, but I wouldn't have either one. Hauling my 16 ft tandum utility loaded with 12500, I can haul the mail and never worry about high egt's, or my old 4 speed getting too hot. And, I don't have to worry about all of the other diesel problems; I just gas and go. To each his own, but I have been the diesel route and will never go back.
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With this V-10 and the Torqueshift, towing is a piece of cake. The only diesel Ford engines with the TS tranny are the 6 leaker and the "new" 6.4. Sorry, but I wouldn't have either one. Hauling my 16 ft tandum utility loaded with 12500, I can haul the mail and never worry about high egt's, or my old 4 speed getting too hot. And, I don't have to worry about all of the other diesel problems; I just gas and go. To each his own, but I have been the diesel route and will never go back.
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That being said, both of my 7.3's hauled a 40' tank of a 5th wheel (Carriage) all over the western states losing 2 tranny's, stopping at the top of mountains to let either the tranny or the turbo cool off and then head down hill when my brakes were getting hot and I wound up going 90 and praying that the back end would stay behind me.
I have NEVER heard of someone having to stop mid drive to let their turbo cool off. You are supposed to let it idle for a minute or two before you shut it off if you just finished a hard pull, but that is generally only after a heavy weight, turbo screaming, WOT pull....... As long as your truck is running, cool oil is flowing through the turbo and you have nothing to worry about...... What do your brakes have to do with the truck being a diesel? And why does everyone with a TS act like any vehicle without a TS is an out of control, 100 mph, brakes frying, death wagon? I have towed all over the country (elevations from as low as florida to as high as colorado) and have never felt like I didn't have enough brakes to maintain a safe speed......
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Thats exactly the setup my brother has. he also drove sensibly.
some people just choose not to believe cause they're jealous!
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If you have a turbo'd diesel, you need to have a decent guage for the exhaust gas temp and drive by that. Otherwise, if you tow heavy, you're asking for a meltdown, especially if it's chipped. I'll bet I saw 7-8 fairly new 2001-2002's back in their day at the local Gillette, Wy dealer that fried their turbos when they just added a Superchip and blasted along towing their livestock. You're lucky if you only fry your turbo and unlucky if it frys that plus a piston or two. When you get to the top of the hill and your EGT guage says 1400-1600, then you better stop and let her cool. I don't have that worry with my gasser V-10, I just keep on going.
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If you have a turbo'd diesel, you need to have a decent guage for the exhaust gas temp and drive by that.
When you get to the top of the hill and your EGT guage says 1400-1600, then you better stop and let her cool. I don't have that worry with my gasser V-10, I just keep on going.
When you get to the top of the hill and your EGT guage says 1400-1600, then you better stop and let her cool. I don't have that worry with my gasser V-10, I just keep on going.
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I hear you about the 7.3. I had a 1997 and a 2002. Both were great trucks, but both did have some issues and I was forever doing some kind of "mod" to make it just a little bit better. Seems if you once start, you'll spend a months salary just to take care of the next "step". That being said, both of my 7.3's hauled a 40' tank of a 5th wheel (Carriage) all over the western states losing 2 tranny's, stopping at the top of mountains to let either the tranny or the turbo cool off and then head down hill when my brakes were getting hot and I wound up going 90 and praying that the back end would stay behind me. Pap
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If you have a turbo'd diesel, you need to have a decent guage for the exhaust gas temp and drive by that. Otherwise, if you tow heavy, you're asking for a meltdown, especially if it's chipped. I'll bet I saw 7-8 fairly new 2001-2002's back in their day at the local Gillette, Wy dealer that fried their turbos when they just added a Superchip and blasted along towing their livestock. You're lucky if you only fry your turbo and unlucky if it frys that plus a piston or two. When you get to the top of the hill and your EGT guage says 1400-1600, then you better stop and let her cool. I don't have that worry with my gasser V-10, I just keep on going.
Dude are you for real? If your v10 can even make it up the hill then egt's will not be a problem in and PSD. LOL
Please stop pretending a V10 can can pull as much as a PSD you just sound foolish...
This post is hilarious!
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i just find it amusing that the v10 guys will talk trash about the 6.0's problems but when you bring up about spark plugs flying all over the place they just blow it off like it was no big deal. "that never happened. its just a fairy tail some psd guy made up." and then critize the fact that we bring up the 7.3 in the discussion when a lot of people still have the 7.3. i dont own a 6.0 or a 6.4 so im not gunna bring them up. i dont know much about them other than there prown to problems. just like the early v10s were prown to "puke up" a spark plug every once in a while.
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i haul my case from alamogordo up to cloudcroft all the time and going up the hill she will get warm but never to the point of pulling over and letting here idle to cool. and thats one of the steepest winding roads ive ever hauled on. its a 15 min drive (unloaded) from a base of 4300 ft to the town of cloudcroft witch is at 9100 ft.
But I know, it's apples to oranges since I have a turbo and he doesn't...and my turbo is about to melt (which has yet to happen), and he has more horsepower, and he can buy a fuel filter for 8 bucks at Wal-Mart, and gas is cheaper than diesel...blah, blah, blah. All I know is that nobody is sitting on my trailer's bumper going up the hill wondering why it is that I can't maintain the speed limit.
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Aaawwww, I guess I'm busted. I wish I had a truck that knocks and smokes and is so rattly I can't hear myself think with less power than my V10 so I could feel manly...
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i dont know why a truck that is so "rattly" would bother you at all. apperently you dont think very much becuase nothing your saying makes any sense. must be v10 A.D.D.
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Sorry, just being sarcastic.