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Old Mar 26, 2010 | 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Seven-Point-Three
Well the 7.3 diesel is brought up by a lot of people because it is a incredibly reliable truck that will hold its own towing most anything. Just curious, what have you used your V10 for?
Me? Lots of things
 
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Old Mar 26, 2010 | 02:48 PM
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i ue a v10 as a boat anochor thats about all
 
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Old Mar 26, 2010 | 02:48 PM
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it's my buddy's, not mine. he huals scrap, cars, heavy equipment and farm machinery. he works for a junkyard and lives on a farm. i know, here comes the personal attacks about how i'm making stuff up. i never said i owned one, i said i have personal experience with one. so please don't ask what the heaviest load he's ever hauled was, cuz i don't know
 
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Old Mar 26, 2010 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by fatdan460
diesel guys ram the 7.3 down your throat, but ignore the fact that the last 2 diesel options you had to choose from are both less qualified in the reliability category, and have been phased out rather quickly.

i havent owned either. but i have personal experience with v10 with 265,xxx on it and it runs great, so good in fact the tranny is shot from being worked too hard, so it's getting a new one.
Go back and read my reply from just one page ago(I'll post it for you below). It kind of disputes what you say about us diesel guys ignoring the problems with the 6.0 and 6.4.

All of the company trucks with v10's in them that we use get traded in at 125k miles because they can't handle the kind of abuse we put them through in the oil fields. I have about twice as many miles on my 7.3 and it still runs like brand new(I can also point you in the direction of several oil field 7.3's(and 5.9's) with 500-600k on them). I'm pretty proud of the fact that my 7.3 has outlasted a couple fleets of v10's and 6.0's, so when reliability gets brought up I don't mind bragging on it. I think the v10 is a great engine and I will be the first one to brag on it too. But from what I have seen with my own eyes on our jobsites, it just doesn't hold up like a 7.3 or 5.9 when it is abused.


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I'm not talking about the reliability of the 6.0 or 6.4. I agree that they don't have the best track record when it comes to reliability.

You sure the tranny isn't just shot from having 265k miles on it? If it's an automatic, that's longer than I would expect it to last even with someone babying it.
 
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Old Mar 26, 2010 | 02:58 PM
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joe f350 - works good don't it =
 
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Old Mar 26, 2010 | 02:59 PM
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works great thouse 2 extra cyclerds are good for tieing chain to
 
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Old Mar 26, 2010 | 03:07 PM
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the trans worked fine, but had some electrical issues, i think some solienoid? it was stolen a few weeks ago from outside a bar, thrashed pretty good, then abandoned. after the police recovered it, the trans was shot, wouldn't hold all the gears. so it's getting a brand new one from ford through his insurance. i was thinking about trading to get this truck from him, thats how i stumbled into this thread.i don't have any issues with diesels, but can't stand the way they smell, lived down the road from a factory when i was little and had semi's goin back and forth day and night blowing stink into the air
 
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Old Mar 26, 2010 | 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by fatdan460
the last 7.3 was in what? 2003? diesel guys ram the 7.3 down your throat, but ignore the fact that the last 2 diesel options you had to choose from are both less qualified in the reliability category, and have been phased out rather quickly.
I have never owned a V10 either, although I have owed a 460, 2 5.4's, 7.3, and 6.0. None of those even come close to comparing to my 6.0, and the 6.4 is even better.

If you want to talk reliability, I have spent exactly $100 on engine repairs within the last 5 years and my truck was out of service for about a day and a half. It would cost me more than that just to get an Asian lady to say "me love you long time." The Humane Society wants more money than that to keep a cat from getting poked in the eye.

That's great that there's an engine choice out there that will run like the dickens from now until our national debt is paid off, but the truth is that there is always a trade off...and that trade off for me is a sacrifice of raw pulling power, not to mention comfortable pulling power. So sure I spend more money on my truck than if I had a V10, but in the end, we're talking a difference of a few grand. That doesn't even get my CPA whining. I'm glad there is a choice for those that don't want the extra considerations of a diesel. After all, that's what capitalism is all about.

I'm sorry to see the V10 go. Hopefully y'all will rave about the 6.2 as much as you have about the V10. That'll just mean that Ford is fortifying its position as the elite manufacturer.
 
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Old Mar 26, 2010 | 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by fatdan460
the trans worked fine, but had some electrical issues, i think some solienoid? it was stolen a few weeks ago from outside a bar, thrashed pretty good, then abandoned. after the police recovered it, the trans was shot, wouldn't hold all the gears. so it's getting a brand new one from ford through his insurance. i was thinking about trading to get this truck from him, thats how i stumbled into this thread.i don't have any issues with diesels, but can't stand the way they smell, lived down the road from a factory when i was little and had semi's goin back and forth day and night blowing stink into the air
For what 99% of people use them for, both will be more than capable and the v10 is a great engine. Oil fields just tend to be reallllly hard on a truck and that's when you can really see the difference in them. We have one company that works for us (they use a 5.9 cummins) that only turns it off once a month to change the oil. Other than that, it is running 24/7. It drives to one site, does the job, goes back to the shop, switches crews, goes to another job, and repeats that 7 days a week. There are several like that with over 300-400k miles, and that isn't counting the hours they are running (and not moving) while they are doing the job. They are almost all loaded to the max, driven like they were stolen, driven off road 7 days a week, jerked around by dozers and left running for countless hours/days at a time.
 
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Old Mar 26, 2010 | 03:40 PM
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Didn't know a Cummins was a PSD
 
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Old Mar 26, 2010 | 03:41 PM
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not going through hot and cold cycles extends the life of any engine, and i feel that has alot to do with diesels having longevity in semi's and industrial settings as well as in pickups. most diesel guys leave em running to keep em up to temp when they can, and i don't mean that in an argumentative way
 
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Old Mar 26, 2010 | 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Krewat
Didn't know a Cummins was a PSD
Neither is a 460, but those have been brought up quite a few times.

When reliability comes up, I won't hesitate to brag on the Cummins. I'm just talking about the different engines we have on job sites. 7.3's, 5.4's, v10's, cummins, 6.0's, 6.4's, etc. When it comes to reliability, the two best I have worked with are a 5.9 and a 7.3. Hands down, no questions asked. The 6.0's never broke down or had the nightmare issues that a lot of people had. Their main issue was the egr. The v10's issue was just being completely worn out by 125k miles. I will say that I haven't seen hardly any 6.4's though, but that is because of the cab issue, not the engine itself. We have a few cummins 6.7's out there, but they are still too new for me to tell anything about.
 
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Old Mar 26, 2010 | 04:04 PM
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page 248. you brought 460's into this
 
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Old Mar 26, 2010 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by fatdan460
most diesel guys leave em running to keep em up to temp when they can, and i don't mean that in an argumentative way
Not so much anymore. Idling is NOT good for a diesel engine! The owner's guide to my work truck's C15 engine states to NOT idle the engine for longer than 5 minutes unless absolutely necessary!

My 6.4L PSD produces 350 HP from 6.4 liters.

My work truck makes 435 HP from 15.2 liters. And the engine weighs over 3,000 lbs. I think this has more to do with reliability than the fact that many engines see many hours idling.
 
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Old Mar 26, 2010 | 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Seven-Point-Three
V10 has cheap rebuild price. Oh Boy! It had better you start hauling a trailer with a real load and your gonna need a cheap rebuild expense. I'm happy that the V10 is suited for RVs, you won't see many in a real work truck that pulls trailers.
I may not pull to many trailers, but I certainly pull a lot of big loads! Most of the heavy stuff I pull are dead diesels, such as:





















 
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