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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Ace!
I read about 685 posts in this thread and it's become very clear that the V10 is a better engine than any other engine, from Ford or from any other maker or brand. I appreciate all the good objective posts because it's sure made it easier for me to understand the pros and cons of each, the PSD and the V10, and now it's so clear that regardless of use, no matter what, in any and all circumstances the V10 is just better. Thanks guys! You can go back to sniffing diesel fumes!
Says the V10 owner....

Diesel doesn't smell in the cab. You're the one who gets to smell my exhaust.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 05:49 PM
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It's probably more likely the drive thru person that hates the diesel smell or sound more than me. I've been thanked for turning off my engine when in fact it was running, and had someone start filling my gas tank because they didn't realize my truck hadn't yet been turned off. The V10 is in fact so quiet it has a negative sound signature, it may absorb sound it's that quiet. If I don't like the smell of the diesel I just roll up my window.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 05:57 PM
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No one has yet answered my question as to how a V10 stands up when really worked hard, such as a hot shot.

The main reason I wouldn't use one for a hot shot is fuel mileage. If you figure 3000 miles a week at 11 mpg avg vs 7 mpg the difference in fuel at $2/gal would be $300 plus. That would be nearly $15k per year difference.

Then again you have the question of whether the V10 would even last a year doing that type of work!
 
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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Ace!
If I don't like the smell of the diesel I just roll up my window.
Thats hard to do when your sitting in traffic or at the driveup with the A/C on. Its that sticking hot and humid you shure don't want to shut off the A/C or roll the windows down.

There was a guy that posted in the V10 forum last year that had a V10 he used as a hotshot hauler. He had around 300k on it and he said it had the original trans in it. If I was a hot shot hauler I'd have a medium duty truck anyway. The engines and transmissions last longer.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by mudmaker
Then again you have the question of whether the V10 would even last a year doing that type of work!
Does a PSD, with that much load?

And while we're talking costs, what about other diesel-related maintenance eating up part of that $15K per year you're talking about?
 
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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 06:21 PM
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Does a PSD, with that much load?

And while we're talking costs, what about other diesel-related maintenance eating up part of that $15K per year you're talking about?

The PSD handles it fine. I really doubt a V10 would be much less. I changed the oil once a month and fuel/air every other month.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 07:03 PM
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Can someone please tell me what a hot shot is? Thanks!
 
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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by KelVarnson
Can someone please tell me what a hot shot is? Thanks!
A hot shot is a trucker who uses a 1 ton dually or similar and operates it over the road like a semi. I think the technical term is LTL for "less than truck load".
 
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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 07:17 PM
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I read the posts in this thread too. Yes, I am embarrassed to admit it but it is true. Anyway, this is what I got out of it...

1. A lot of people here drink beer. Maybe too much. Many of those people like popcorn as well.

2. V10 is the best gas engine Ford ever put in a truck. Mileage sucks and that's the same sound from your wallet at the gas station. V10 is powerful and can tow well. It is a durable engine. V10 owners like to bench race and would prefer that no diesel be manufactured with a turbocharger so that they could be king of the hill.

3. Pre-2007 diesel is more durable and gets much better mileage. It has high cost of entry but is more economical long term and has good resale value. Every diesel owner prays they don't have to repair anything because it will delay retirement by a year. Diesel has a love-hate relationship with the public by having a reputation for being stinky, smokey, and loud. New diesels resolve all those issues but are very complex and assumed to be very unreliable. New diesels get poor mileage and make a V10 a worthy alternative. Hot rodders leave nothing stock and prefer diesel because it can rip any V10 a new tailpipe hole.

4. 7.3L owners have the best engine ever put in a Ford truck and will drive it to the grave. They will forever wish for the good old days of tractor-like clatter and pulling races with Cummins mechanical engines. Some make it a part-time hobby to rescue 6.0L owners stranded on the side of the road. Eventually some 7.3L owners will be forced to buy a new truck and it will be a V10 because no other diesel engine will be good enough.

5. 6.0L owners are the next generation of 6.4L owners. They'll try anything once - even jumping off a cliff.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 07:44 PM
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QwkTrip nicely said. After my last truck blew out its spark plugs. Ive decided Ill stay with glowplugs. Diesel all the way.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by mudmaker
No one has yet answered my question as to how a V10 stands up when really worked hard, such as a hot shot.

Then again you have the question of whether the V10 would even last a year doing that type of work!
They do.
I have hauled over 500K in scrap metal with mine in the last year.
took in 13,500 today and on the way there it turned over 161K.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by QwkTrip



2. V10 is the best gas engine Ford ever put in a truck. Mileage sucks and that's the same sound from your wallet at the gas station. V10 is powerful and can tow well. It is a durable engine.


3 V10 owners like to bench race and would prefer that no diesel be manufactured with a turbocharger so that they could be king of the hill.



4. 7.3L owners have the best engine ever put in a Ford truck and will drive it to the grave. They will forever wish for the good old days of tractor-like clatter and pulling races with Cummins mechanical engines. Some make it a part-time hobby to rescue 6.0L owners stranded on the side of the road. Eventually some 7.3L owners will be forced to buy a new truck and it will be a V10 because no other diesel engine will be good enough..
2 and 4 are 100% correct .
3 is not true, my V10 will out pull a turbo diesel, so why should i care if it has one or not?
 
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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 08:25 PM
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But with only a V10 you had to do the 13,500 in 10 trips, right ?
 
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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 08:29 PM
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haha, no that was one trip.
never had a problem going 80 on the freeway with that much either.
It had to down shift on 3 hills, but it was not bad.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by bill11012
3 is not true, my V10 will out pull a turbo diesel, so why should i care if it has one or not?
What I said is shown below... you V10 BENCH RACER!

Originally Posted by QwkTrip
V10 owners like to bench race and would prefer that no diesel be manufactured with a turbocharger so that they could be king of the hill.
 
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