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Old Jul 16, 2021 | 08:46 PM
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I don't think my pastor would appreciate that one bit. But then again, he thinks I'm murderous heathen.
Just explain to him you've been hanging out with the natives and you don;
't know what came over you. Just as long as they don't handle the snakes at your church otherwise we may have to have an intervention or something.
 
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Just explain to him you've been hanging out with the natives and you don;t know what came over you. Just as long as they don't handle the snakes at your church otherwise we may have to have an intervention or something.
LMAO. Snakes is why he thinks I'm nuts. He saw me relocate a timber rattler from the church yard, to the woods. He looked as if he saw a demon.
 
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Old Jul 17, 2021 | 07:08 PM
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I just finished inspecting and deburring the camshaft. I never hear anyone talking about doing this, so I thought it'd be a good mention. Engine building has a lot of things in common with rifle building, and I inspect and deburr everything I build in the gun shop. I've never inspected a camshaft that was acceptable out of the box!


 
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Old Jul 17, 2021 | 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by ranger140892
LMAO. Snakes is why he thinks I'm nuts. He saw me relocate a timber rattler from the church yard, to the woods. He looked as if he saw a demon.
I would have loved to have been there for that one

I just finished inspecting and deburring the camshaft. I never hear anyone talking about doing this, so I thought it'd be a good mention. Engine building has a lot of things in common with rifle building, and I inspect and deburr everything I build in the gun shop. I've never inspected a camshaft that was acceptable out of the box!
Nice Mike ! It's the little things
 
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Old Jul 17, 2021 | 09:34 PM
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Multiple choice quiz:
A: Dryer lint
B: Waffle house urinal
C: Barber shop floor
D: Camshaft burrs


 
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Old Jul 17, 2021 | 09:47 PM
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LMAO I'm going with D) for $500 Mike
 
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Old Jul 18, 2021 | 07:28 AM
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Wow... What did you use to do the deburring?
 
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Old Jul 18, 2021 | 12:24 PM
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Wow... What did you use to do the deburring?
A medium India stone. It's not difficult. Most of the burrs will fall off at the touch.....or as soon as the engine cranks up.
 
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Old Jul 18, 2021 | 12:37 PM
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A medium India stone. It's not difficult. Most of the burrs will fall off at the touch.....or as soon as the engine cranks up.
Send them back to Voodoo and tell them these weren't needed and you need to step up your game as far as quality control is concerned because it's going in a Ford.
 
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I agree with redroad. Just bring it to their attention.
 
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Oh definitely. I'm calling Lunati tomorrow, and I have a couple of direct email addresses to folks at Lunati to send that photo to.

Good news is, I put the camshaft in the lathe with a dial indicator on it. The camshaft is good and straight. I compared it to the other Lunati camshaft I have, and to the factory camshaft that came out of the engine. Dang, you should see the factory camshaft! I have no idea how that damn thing was actually functioning. The 60 degree center drilling on the tail end is way off center.

Bad news is, the new camshaft fits a little tight in the bearings. I probably should have had the cam tunnel line bored. Lesson learned. After comparing measurements between the three camshafts, the bearing journals on the one I'm gonna use are a smidge larger. I've got a few options: Take the block back to the machine shop and get the tunnel line honed and new bearings installed. Send the camshaft back for some grinding. Or put the camshaft in the lathe and polish the journals. I'm gonna polish the journals. I might ruin a camshaft, but I'm gonna learn a few things regardless.
 
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Old Jul 18, 2021 | 02:20 PM
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Oh definitely. I'm calling Lunati tomorrow, and I have a couple of direct email addresses to folks at Lunati to send that photo to.

Good news is, I put the camshaft in the lathe with a dial indicator on it. The camshaft is good and straight. I compared it to the other Lunati camshaft I have, and to the factory camshaft that came out of the engine. Dang, you should see the factory camshaft! I have no idea how that damn thing was actually functioning. The 60 degree center drilling on the tail end is way off center.

Bad news is, the new camshaft fits a little tight in the bearings. I probably should have had the cam tunnel line bored. Lesson learned. After comparing measurements between the three camshafts, the bearing journals on the one I'm gonna use are a smidge larger. I've got a few options: Take the block back to the machine shop and get the tunnel line honed and new bearings installed. Send the camshaft back for some grinding. Or put the camshaft in the lathe and polish the journals. I'm gonna polish the journals. I might ruin a camshaft, but I'm gonna learn a few things regardless.
Low oil pressure at idle was always a problem for the 460 and when they put in the first oil pressure switches that controlled the fuel pump in cold weather a 460 with say 125,000 miles on it would have a hell of a time starting on a cold Winter's day without an engine block heater. So polishing would be as far as I'd go if it were me. I'm enjoying your thread more every day while learning a few things.Thanks Mike, I appreciate the time you're putting into it.
 
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Redroad, you're right. Polishing is as far as I should go. Actually, if I was giving advice to someone in my position, I'd tell them to take the block back to the machine shop for cam tunnel hone and new bearings. But, I'm gonna risk it. I've weighed out the bad things I know can happen...Polishing doesn't work, get one or two journals undersized enough to lower oil pressure, ruin a camshaft, etc. I'll risk it. I'll be able to identify those problems quickly on the engine test stand. And if oil pressure is too low, the engine is on the stand and easy to tear down. I'm gambling that the only reason you never hear of anyone polishing camshaft journals, is that most people don't have a precision lathe to do it on.

Another thing I'm doing is to drill a .031" hole in the driver side lifter gallery plug. That plug is right behind the distributor gear, and will squirt oil on it. Since I'm using a fairly aggressive camshaft, and a steel distributor gear, I figure it'll need that oil. Last night I test drilled a plug with a 1/16" drill bit, just to see if it'd be a problem. It worked fine, but 1/16" is .0625". That's too big, and could lower oil pressure too much. I ordered three .031" drill bits.
 
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Time to go back to the machine shop for cam tunnel line boring. After two trips to the lathe with some 1000 grit paper, the camshaft spins freely enough. Just barely. However, I feel a very slight rough spot while rotating the camshaft. I obviously nicked a cam bearing during all the in and out. The snowball is getting bigger.
 
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Originally Posted by ranger140892
Time to go back to the machine shop for cam tunnel line boring. After two trips to the lathe with some 1000 grit paper, the camshaft spins freely enough. Just barely. However, I feel a very slight rough spot while rotating the camshaft. I obviously nicked a cam bearing during all the in and out. The snowball is getting bigger.
Installing the cam is probably the hardest part of assembly. Getting that line straight is the base line for oil pressure eventually. It will be a "blueprinted" motor when your done.
 
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