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Old Aug 11, 2021 | 08:38 PM
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Well I just finished reading this entire thread, and wow! Thank you for going through the effort to make this happen! This is a can of worms I might have been better off never opening while I research what I want to do for a full motor build
When FTN finally gets his new electronic actuator installed and dialed in, and himself strapped in, all of the foregoing effort documented over nearly 1,000 posts will feel like literally nothing.
 
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Old Aug 11, 2021 | 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by literallynothing
Well I just finished reading this entire thread, and wow! Thank you for going through the effort to make this happen! This is a can of worms I might have been better off never opening while I research what I want to do for a full motor build
You might say a can of worms.... @FordTruckNoob says....can of whoop a##
 
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Old Aug 12, 2021 | 06:48 AM
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Yes they were. I would have spun around in a heartbeat if I had just floored the pedal suddenly.
Time for 4x4 pulls
 
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Old Aug 12, 2021 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by literallynothing
Well I just finished reading this entire thread, and wow! Thank you for going through the effort to make this happen! This is a can of worms I might have been better off never opening while I research what I want to do for a full motor build
Well, if it helps you in your research, the purpose of this thread has been fulfilled. I'm glad to be of service in any way.

Originally Posted by Y2KW57
When FTN finally gets his new electronic actuator installed and dialed in, and himself strapped in, all of the foregoing effort documented over nearly 1,000 posts will feel like literally nothing.
Originally Posted by Dan V
You might say a can of worms.... @FordTruckNoob says....can of whoop a##
I don't think literallynothing meant anything derogatory by "can of worms" but I do appreciate you guys' support.



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Time for 4x4 pulls
That would solve the problem indeed but triple digit speeds in a 55 are a really bad idea methinks.
 
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Old Aug 13, 2021 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by FordTruckNoob
Well, if it helps you in your research, the purpose of this thread has been fulfilled. I'm glad to be of service in any way.



I don't think literallynothing meant anything derogatory by "can of worms" but I do appreciate you guys' support.




That would solve the problem indeed but triple digit speeds in a 55 are a really bad idea methinks.
No intention to be derogatory at all! Just that prior to stumbling across this thread, the idea of VGT had never entered my mind for a 7.3, so a bunch of injector/turbo combinations that I had thought of as off the table, are now back on
 
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Old Aug 13, 2021 | 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by literallynothing
No intention to be derogatory at all! Just that prior to stumbling across this thread, the idea of VGT had never entered my mind for a 7.3, so a bunch of injector/turbo combinations that I had thought of as off the table, are now back on
It’s all good.

As for opening up injector/turbo options, did you see the part of this thread where I overspun an S366? I’d say the Turbonator adds a limitation to how small a turbo you can go.
 
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Old Aug 13, 2021 | 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by FordTruckNoob
It’s all good.

As for opening up injector/turbo options, did you see the part of this thread where I overspun an S366? I’d say the Turbonator adds a limitation to how small a turbo you can go.
that’s the part of the thread that really got me thinking. My plan was S364.5 or S366. But it seems like the turbonator takes turbos that are normally perfectly sized for injectors, and makes them too small. Which would mean I need to look into going with a S369 or S372 if I decide to put a turbonator on
 
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Old Aug 13, 2021 | 03:58 PM
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At risk of giving FTN something else to fixate on, I'm surprised no one has tried a 6.0 VGT on a 7.3, and rigged up an electronic controller for it. Certainly nothing a Arduino couldn't handle.
 
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Old Aug 13, 2021 | 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by PriusLover
I'm surprised no one has tried a 6.0 VGT on a 7.3, and rigged up an electronic controller for it..
As well you should be, because people have.






 
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Old Aug 13, 2021 | 04:11 PM
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There a thread somewhere on that build? Curious how well it worked.
 
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Old Aug 13, 2021 | 04:14 PM
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@PriusLover Hah! You know how to pique my interest. Everything I’ve read about the 6.0 VGT is that it’s a POS prone to jamming. A lot of 6.0 guys replace it with a conventional turbo. How is the Turbonator different? I have no clue aside from their marketing claims of theirs being the first to be designed for performance applications. It has been quite the leap of faith.
 
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Old Aug 13, 2021 | 04:34 PM
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Over the last quarter century, there have been all kinds of different builds of the 7.3L. Twin turbos. Sequential turbos. 6.0L turbos. Mechanical fuel injection. 25 years affords enough time for any and everything imaginable to have had a chance to be tried.

Admittedly, it is a lil' easier for an ol' geezer who's a windbag wheezer like me to think back and remember ah yes, that's been done before... than it might be for a person who only recently became interested in this engine.

The installation above was on an OBS (94.5-98), but folks have done it to the 99 up Super Duty as well. I have no idea how they fared, as I don't follow those types of mods, nor would I want a turbo whose vanes get sticky, as they would with my slow poke put put..





 
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Old Aug 13, 2021 | 05:00 PM
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It's my (admititly limited) understanding that the problems with the variable vanes on the 6.0 turbo getting stuck stem from trucks sitting undriven in wet climates such that the vanes rust in place. Regular driving prevents this from happening. Also have heard trucks producing a lot of soot (from engine problems or poor tuning) can result in the vanes gumming up.

That being said, I'd think most VGT systems would have this weakness to some degree.
 
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Old Aug 13, 2021 | 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Y2KW57
as I don't follow those types of mods, nor would I want a turbo whose vanes get sticky, as they would with my slow poke put put..
Are you implying I have a lead foot? Not that you’d be wrong by the way. Just askin’.
 
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Old Aug 13, 2021 | 05:59 PM
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6.doh turbos are very reliable, the vanes getting stuck is due to people not allowing their right foot hit the asphalt once in a while.
 
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