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Old May 10, 2019 | 07:57 PM
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George, not going to call you wrong, cause I have NO IDEA. That said, they already have a gasser so why build another and why make it bigger.

Ever seen the torque curve on a Z06 Corvette? Flatter than my first girlfriend without her wonder bra on. 650 lbs of torque shows up strong just off idle and goes flatline till about 6500 rpm. Now if Chevy can do it, so can Ford in my thinki ng. The 7.3 could be a torque monster at 7.3 and the right configuration. Especially if FORD is building to the end.

Dunno, just a Z06 guy!

It would be nice to save about $10k on the diesel...but would take a lot of convincing for me to leave diesels behind with over 5000+ in the bed of the truck and a trailer behind me...
Do they put the z06 motor in Chevy 2500 or 3500?
 
Old May 10, 2019 | 08:09 PM
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George, not going to call you wrong, cause I have NO IDEA. That said, they already have a gasser so why build another and why make it bigger.

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Ford needed something to replace the V-10 in the bigger trucks and motorhomes. 6.2 won't do it. I'm happy they are putting them in the "little" trucks. (250/350) The new 7.3 won't pull like a 6.7, but I expect it will pull better than a stock 7.3 or 6.0 diesel.

To each their own on the grills/lights. I like the 2020 versions better than the 17-19.
 
Old May 10, 2019 | 08:24 PM
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Nice to see some fresh pictures show up.. Wonder when we will see the specs? I'm considering going with the 7.3 also for 20'.

I've also contemplated going with another extended cab instead of a crew cab as I rarely use mine for other than storage etc..
How much is the price difference between the two as I cant remember?
 
Old May 10, 2019 | 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by 17 Oaks
George, not going to call you wrong, cause I have NO IDEA. That said, they already have a gasser so why build another and why make it bigger.

Ever seen the torque curve on a Z06 Corvette? Flatter than my first girlfriend without her wonder bra on. 650 lbs of torque shows up strong just off idle and goes flatline till about 6500 rpm. Now if Chevy can do it, so can Ford in my thinki ng. The 7.3 could be a torque monster at 7.3 and the right configuration. Especially if FORD is building to the end.

Dunno, just a Z06 guy!

It would be nice to save about $10k on the diesel...but would take a lot of convincing for me to leave diesels behind with over 5000+ in the bed of the truck and a trailer behind me...
17 Oaks,
I have no idea either, and sincerely hope I’m totally wrong, but I do think we could all agree that diesel torque is different than gas torque. The compression differences, along with turbocharging just makes gobs of torque available at low RPM, where gasoline just can’t provide the same kind of powerband. I’m very skeptical...Which leads to the question why GM never sold the Z06 as a truck power option. It is possible that the block wasn’t designed for the amount of strain that heavy towing brings.
Yes, the 7.3L is a great addition and takes the place of an older designed V-10, but I’m not assuming that it’s going to be anything close to a Powerstroke.
 
Old May 11, 2019 | 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by 17 Oaks
George, not going to call you wrong, cause I have NO IDEA. That said, they already have a gasser so why build another and why make it bigger.

Ever seen the torque curve on a Z06 Corvette? Flatter than my first girlfriend without her wonder bra on. 650 lbs of torque shows up strong just off idle and goes flatline till about 6500 rpm. Now if Chevy can do it, so can Ford in my thinki ng. The 7.3 could be a torque monster at 7.3 and the right configuration. Especially if FORD is building to the end.

Dunno, just a Z06 guy!

It would be nice to save about $10k on the diesel...but would take a lot of convincing for me to leave diesels behind with over 5000+ in the bed of the truck and a trailer behind me...
You are drastically underselling your first GF. The Z06 doesn't hit its peak until 3600 RPM's, and its not a flat torque curve at all.

 
Old May 11, 2019 | 08:28 AM
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I think Ford already has it in the GT500 coming. They just need that 5.2L adapted to the Superduty. 😳😆
 
Old May 11, 2019 | 08:39 AM
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I think Oaks had it about right.

 
Old May 11, 2019 | 08:51 AM
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The 7.3 is really on my radar if it can tow a heavy load adequately. Our dually is overkill for our trailer but just a little too much payload wise for a single rear wheel diesel. We take one long 5 to 6 week trip and several short ones each year. Some of the places we go make parking the dually a challenge. The rest of the time it is my daily driver. If the 7.3 with the 10 speed transmission has enough capacity in a single rear wheel there will be one in my garage.
 
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Old May 11, 2019 | 08:58 AM
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It’s amazing how many folks are buying into the 7.3 hype

Our ears are pointing forward when we here 7.3 becuase the 7.3 of yesteryear was pre emissions and trouble free.

why do you think ford picked 7.3 as the displacement?

the 7.3 of yesteryear is not coming back....
 
Old May 11, 2019 | 09:12 AM
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I'd rather call it a 445, but that ship sailed a few decades ago.
 
Old May 11, 2019 | 09:13 AM
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I'm hoping the 7.3 will just be in the middle of the 6.2 and the 6.7. The 6.7 or any other diesel from GM and Ram are overkill unless you're pulling over 10k. My truck pulls my trailer up hills like it's not even there. My tow load is about 8k. I like the idea of a "Big Block" gas for my situation. Things I like about the 7.3 is the bottom end and port injection. People call it 'old school', sometimes simpler is better for a dependable tow vehicle. The LS series of engines are awesome, but the ZO6 and the 7.3 are apples and oranges.
 
Old May 11, 2019 | 09:15 AM
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I'd rather call it a 445, but that ship sailed a few decades ago.
Not if you follow the FE forums, 445 is the favorite stroke kit for a 390.
 
Old May 11, 2019 | 09:25 AM
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I think Oaks had it about right.

Amazing how much it's changed since my racing days when I hit peak torque at nearly 5000 rpm and peak hp at 6800. I remember coming off the line at somewhere between 6-7 rpm and never won a race till I hit 2nd gear at the 7200 rpm mark. Those engines had to be feathered just to pull away from a stop light.

While we are talking engines: Is there a 3 cyl diesel in our future or a 6 or 9 cyl???

Anyone here familiar with the opposed cyl diesel configuration? There is no valve train, no cam and the engines are far more efficient along with producing gobs of power. Looks like a lot of majors have signed on to this tech. If you are not familiar here is a short Youtube on the engine and how it works:

 
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I obviously haven't driven the new 7.3, but before my F350 I had a Chevy with the 8.1L big block. That power delivery was very diesel like with ~90% of peak torque available just off idle. Very different feeling from a small block that needs to rev like the 6.2. I expect the 7.3 to be designed and tuned similarly.
 
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To get the performance of 8.1 liters takes 8.1 liters, or forced induction, which takes more revs.
 



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