Preach brother!!! As a owner/operator, if the wheels ain’t turning, I’m not earning...

 

I get it..
I’m sure Ford sees it the same way as you, but for a totally different reason. Not because they are afraid of their own product as you suggest, but rather why cost potential sales of the commercial trucks until fleet customers feel secure with a new product? Your fear supports this theory. A very smart move.
But, I would expect to see the 10 speed the following year. Once fleet and commercial buyers feel safe. And yes, I get the reason for a fleet buyer to be very apprehensive to buy new products when the equipment must roll..but to suggest the reason points to Ford’s lack of faith in their own product is a reach...

 

The diesel engines are de-rated in cab and chassis models but the gas engines never are. They are the exact same as a truck engine but the rpm they rate the engine at for the published numbers is different. Always been that way, and back in 2010 the ford engineer verified that

 

Reread my post. The way you have twisted it above is not at all what I suggested.

Let me re read it for you... and highlight the key phrase in bold.

A rhetorically posed illogical question, patterned after your own words, which is immediately answered in refutation with logic that is not in dispute, does not promote the question into a suggestion, nor does it promulgate the illogical idea.

 

Well guys I wonder when we will get some more info on the 20's? I would have thought Ford would have given us a little something to keep us going by now.

 

Does anyone know when the soonest you are able to order a 2020 is? Or when you can start building them on the website to get a price quote?

 

The last I heard was early August, 2020.

 

Follow this link for dates:

https://www.donlen.com/buildstart-trucks-ford.html

 

Am i the only one who wishes they would just leave the bodies alone and give it a good production run/interchangeability like the older superduty's??

 

I think Ford just fussed around with the grilles / bumper / lights... changes that probably incorporated some engineering improvements in managing air flow through the heat exchangers, which is no mean trick, given the two opposite extremes that need to be met.

On one the one hand, there has to be enough air flow through the heat exchangers to meet the needs of a higher displacement, hotter running, gasoline big block motor in 120 degree Arizona desert heat...

And on the other hand, there has to be enough frontal dam freeze protection to meet the needs of a cooler running diesel tooling around in a -40 below zero North Dakota shale mine.

Same grille design has to serve both disparate applications with equal reliability and functionality.

Then there's the marketing guys, who have higher pull with management than engineering. They need that fresh look every 4-5 years. A refresh just shy of every car loan cycle.

But I don't think the sheet metal changed for 2020, did it?

I will say this: Whether a person likes aluminum or not, Ford hit it out of the ball park with the exterior sheet metal design of the 15' up and 17' up F-Series. Grills and bumpers and headlights can be changed if one is into that sort of thing. Sheet metal is much harder to swap around. And Ford chiseled out the sheet metal of this current body style in such a manner that makes the competition's offerings appear like passenger cars by comparison. Ford truck body designers some how managed to come up with a sheet metal cab and bed side profile design that has become the quintessential definition of "truck".

 

I've purchased and driven nothing but Chevrolet for over 3 decades, in the past I've never considered Ford, I'm now looking forward to placing an order for a '20 F350, Ford is by far, the better truck now in my opinion, besides .. I don't think I could drive something as ugly as the new '20 HD's, the WT trim isn't as offensive to me, but you still have the questionable interior to deal with ..

 

I would be a bit scared to buy the 1st gen of this new 10 speed tranny Ive heard so many complaints about the F150 10 speed. Some chatter about various issues here: https://www.f150forum.com/f118/2017-...374578/index3/

Not sure if Ford addressed anything in this new Super Duty variant, would hope so.

 

well that 10 speed is in millions of ford vehicles and in millions in gm vehicles. considering how many there are i would say little to no complaints if it wasnt for the internet. this 100% ford torqshift is going to have little to no issues. since 2005 its had a nearly perfect record

 

Someday maybe.

 

Got these from a friend yesterday at the auto show.