2020 revealed!
Mountain Pass
Joined: Apr 2016
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Hmm. This should be interesting. I predicted early on that this would be a $3k-$4k upcharge, but I am basing that on being a true alternative to a diesel for RV towing. Although it is subject to very much debate, I don' believe the 6.2l is a good alternative for any big towing (haters join in three, two, one). If this ends up being a popular alt, for fivers and people in the 8-10k range conventional like me who are driving a diesel, than I would be very hard pressed to believe Ford is going to sell it for basically the same price as LED headlights...
The 7.3 was designed to destroy ram and gm in the non-diesel world. Ram 7.0 is 2 years away and GM big block is probably further out if it's coming at all. 2 years to establish the 7.3 as a viable alternative to diesel when the marketplace is demanding just that. Ford doesn't need to overcharge.
Cargo Master
Joined: Jan 2001
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From: Central Texas
OK. Too much chrome, and it's stupid to drop a look once you have it built up. Think BMW and their "angel eyes" look which carried them 15 years.
Cargo Master
Joined: Jan 2001
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From: Central Texas
I can imagine just what happened.
The characters in this dialog are the Exec VP Marketing (EVPM) and the Finance Guy CEO (FGCEO) aka Dilbert's boss on steroids.
EVPM: Here is our new 2020 grill !!
FGCEO: Looks the same. Make it newer.
EVPM: (fights impulse to strangle CEO). What do you have in mind?
FGCEO: I dunno, spice it up a bit, like them new Chevy trucks, some bold LED triangles, whatever
EVPM: (bites his tongue till it bleeds) Our trademark large LED angle brackets aren't bold enough? OK, how about if we cut a racy slice thru them?
FGCEO: Send me renderings
CFO: No incremental budget on this, right? RIGHT?
And so it was written, so it was done, the LED angle brackets got chopped in two so that the Marketing VP didn't quit.
Logistics Pro
Joined: Jan 2013
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Intake runner length on gassers has a huge effect on low rpm torque. Early TPI 5.7L GM motors had very long runners for low end power. I believe they copied the idea from the earlier Toyota 22RE motor manifold design. Yamaha (in my opinion) perfected the idea in the V6 they designed which went into the first gen Taurus SHO cars with dual runner ‘snake nest’ manifold.
I am not sure anything was copied from Toyota or Yamaha as we were playing with stacked carbs, and Hillborn injectors intakes back in my racing days of the 60's...
Laughing Gas
Joined: Sep 2017
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From: Southwestern Pa.
YOU are RIGHT! Should have remembered that from my engine building and racing days. In addition, so does the length of the exhaust runners.
I am not sure anything was copied from Toyota or Yamaha as we were playing with stacked carbs, and Hillborn injectors intakes back in my racing days of the 60's...
I am not sure anything was copied from Toyota or Yamaha as we were playing with stacked carbs, and Hillborn injectors intakes back in my racing days of the 60's...
Cargo Master
Joined: Jan 2001
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From: Central Texas
Hah! I don't remember that but I sure remember the 440 Wedge in my dad's Charger that he occasionally let me drive. I put an Edelbrock Torker mid-rise intake manifold on my 289 Mustang. 600 cfm Holley quad, float-resistant hydraulic lifters, all that Ford hi-po stuff they sold until the mid 70s emissions cars came out. Remember the fine art of re-curving the spark advance, with weights and springs? That alone seemed to get about 30hp more. Never lost a race in that car. Except the race with that tree....
Logistics Pro
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LOL, YES, some of them were crazy with carbs almost sitting on the fenders feeding the opposite engine banks...
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Fleet Mechanic
Joined: Feb 2010
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From: Hot Springs
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Mountain Pass
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Cargo Master
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From: Central Texas
There is an old school of thought that the sales force should not be trained before new product availability. Auto sales being rather old-school, I can see why they'd stick to that. Those of us truck nuts who are more interested can always get new product data here or elsewhere on the web.