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Old Apr 25, 2019 | 09:41 PM
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GM is pulling a fast one with there new 2020 GM Allison 10speed transmission is not really a Allison ... They own the rights to the name and that 10 speed is a GM Transmission ... They are actually putting the 6 speed Allison 1000 thats in the current trucks in there new 4500 and 5500 .
Talk about pulling a fast one .
I hope Fords new 10 speed is based off there current 6 speed which is a really good transmission .


I read somewhere that GMs 10-speed is actually Fords with different hardware running it. They partnered up on it or something. Can't remember where I read it, possibly one of my fleet magazines
 
Old Apr 25, 2019 | 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by AlienxTx
I read somewhere that GMs 10-speed is actually Fords with different hardware running it. They partnered up on it or something. Can't remember where I read it, possibly one of my fleet magazines
Ford and GM partnered with the light duty 10 speed transmission. Ford parted ways and developed their own Heavy Duty 10 speed transmission.
 
Old Apr 25, 2019 | 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by hindy
Ford and GM partnered with the light duty 10 speed transmission. Ford parted ways and developed their own Heavy Duty 10 speed transmission.
You have a source?
 
Old Apr 25, 2019 | 10:54 PM
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It's all over the web. It was a joint devolvement venture to share the cost. Each manufacture developed their own final software.
 
Old Apr 26, 2019 | 07:07 AM
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Is it just me or does the engine hood appears to hold more volume in height?
I agree...looks like enhanced an Venturi effect.
 
Old Apr 26, 2019 | 10:19 AM
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how about a CP4 bypass kit included so that metal particles from fuel pump roller bearing wear does not blow the injectors. Heck, I would even pay for it if only ford would not deny warranty claims on something that would save ford money.
 
Old Apr 27, 2019 | 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by 67_4_ME
It's all over the web. It was a joint devolvement venture to share the cost. Each manufacture developed their own final software.
on the light duty...the 10speed torqshift is 1000% ford
 
Old Apr 27, 2019 | 02:56 PM
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i wonder if ford will try to match rams 1000tq or if theyll take a back seat for a year or two
 
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Old Apr 27, 2019 | 03:26 PM
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i wonder if ford will try to match rams 1000tq or if theyll take a back seat for a year or two
It’s “projected” to make 1,015.
The next generation Powerstroke, with all of its internal upgrades won’t be unveiled to be in second place.
 
Old Apr 27, 2019 | 08:49 PM
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The truck computer does the math based on your speed and the other vehicle's speed and applies enough brake to prevent you from hitting the car. It can be manually disabled in the computer screens. It can be disabled by any input the driver does to the accelerator.

New truck front end is something I would not buy. Thank god I bought when I did. The base model looks like a combination of old F250s, the current F150, and a Ram's pig nose front end. The sport actually looks to be the general shape of the Titan's "T". Just not a fan. Really liked the old 2016 cross bars too. Maybe their will be a giant plastic egg crate grill version like the GMC.
 
Old Apr 28, 2019 | 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by someday
on the light duty...the 10speed torqshift is 1000% ford
At the 2020 Super Duty reveal Media Day, Ford's lead person for the new 10 speed stated that "the basic architecture and power flow are the same as the F-150" (meaning the transmission co-designed with GM), but that everything is "beefier" on the new Super Duty version, in recognition of the duty cycle and engines that it would be mated to.
 
Old Apr 28, 2019 | 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Y2KW57
At the 2020 Super Duty reveal Media Day, Ford's lead person for the new 10 speed stated that "the basic architecture and power flow are the same as the F-150" (meaning the transmission co-designed with GM), but that everything is "beefier" on the new Super Duty version, in recognition of the duty cycle and engines that it would be mated to.
From my understanding after viewing and reading about the transmissions, Ford took the lead for the light duty 10 speed transmission and GM took the lead for the 8 speed. They did not partner for the Super/Heavy duty 10 speed transmission. Ford build their own 10 Speed TorqShift. GM and Allison partnered to create the Allison 10 speed transmission.
 
Old Apr 28, 2019 | 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by hindy
From my understanding after viewing and reading about the transmissions, Ford took the lead for the light duty 10 speed transmission and GM took the lead for the 8 speed. They did not partner for the Super/Heavy duty 10 speed transmission. Ford build their own 10 Speed TorqShift. GM and Allison partnered to create the Allison 10 speed transmission.
Allison had nothing to do with this series of transmissions besides "certifying" the trans before they put their name on it.

Just like the 6r80/6r140, the 10's are the same basic architecture with the expected heavier parts for the HD's. Extremely doubtful that Ford and GM would spend all the years and dollars they did, then abandon all that work to develop radically different trans for their respective HD line.

Also, GM took the lead on a 9 speed trans that Ford decided not to use. GM developed their 8 speed on their own and are now facing multiple class-action lawsuits over it's repeated failings.
 
Old Apr 28, 2019 | 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Dentside

Also, GM took the lead on a 9 speed trans that Ford decided not to use. GM developed their 8 speed on their own and are now facing multiple class-action lawsuits over it's repeated failings.
Yup, yup... I stand corrected. It was the 9 speed. Thanks. 😉
 
Old Apr 30, 2019 | 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Alaskan_Warbird
SEXAY!! If they offer the 2020+ F450 with the new 7.3L gas, that'll be my next truck.
How about the just-released MOPAR "Hellephant" engine...426 Hemi, 1000 hp. $29,995.00, drop that in a F 450...LOL
 



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