2020 revealed!
Cargo Master
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From: WNY
Cargo Master
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But, will there be a more thoroughly tested unit than the 2020 powertrain?
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Ford has been testing the 10 speed for almost 3 years, but I'm not sure about the 7.3, that is the big unknown.
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the super duty is more f150 ever since 2017 and will continue to be unless the SD gets its own cab which i doubt. it will be f150 update then SD similar to f150 update and on and on. 15 150, 17 sd,18 150, 20 sd, 21 150, 23 sd...
the 2020 wont be available till december earliest
i think the 10 sp torqshift will be a completely different animal and much better 100% developed by ford. it will be more heavy duty and not made for a bunch of different applications and vehicles.
the 2020 wont be available till december earliest
i think the 10 sp torqshift will be a completely different animal and much better 100% developed by ford. it will be more heavy duty and not made for a bunch of different applications and vehicles.
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just an FYI the new 10 speed was developed by Ford and GM along with Allison https://www.caranddriver.com/feature...-transmission/
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I guess IMO, I’ve never been one to be scared of new stuff. The fear posts usually comes from those who just bought the old stuff, and are frightened by the world of change and development as technology marches on.
I would buy a new truck today if the 2020 was available, but I know what’s coming will be a game changer.. more power and torque, and a transmission that will be almost seamless while holding the sweet spot. The calculations I’ve read are predicting 490/1015..
https://www.spediesel.com/blogs/blog...l-engine-specs... and that’s another good reason to wait....
For those who are thinking they are playing it safe, I tip my hat..
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I’ve heard it both ways.. it really doesn’t matter to me if GM had a hand in it or not..
I guess IMO, I’ve never been one to be scared of new stuff. The fear posts usually comes from those who just bought the old stuff, and are frightened by the world of change and development as technology marches on.
I would buy a new truck today if the 2020 was available, but I know what’s coming will be a game changer.. more power and torque, and a transmission that will be almost seamless while holding the sweet spot. The calculations I’ve read are predicting 490/1015..
https://www.spediesel.com/blogs/blog...l-engine-specs... and that’s another good reason to wait....
For those who are thinking they are playing it safe, I tip my hat..
I guess IMO, I’ve never been one to be scared of new stuff. The fear posts usually comes from those who just bought the old stuff, and are frightened by the world of change and development as technology marches on.
I would buy a new truck today if the 2020 was available, but I know what’s coming will be a game changer.. more power and torque, and a transmission that will be almost seamless while holding the sweet spot. The calculations I’ve read are predicting 490/1015..
https://www.spediesel.com/blogs/blog...l-engine-specs... and that’s another good reason to wait....
For those who are thinking they are playing it safe, I tip my hat..
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My plans are to wait for the 2020. I will be stepping up to a F550 Cab&Chassis. I will be putting a fully skirted flatbed with under bed tool boxes and a hid away goose ball. The primary use will be for a 5000(+) lbs slide on camper and tow behind trailer. Plus hauling a gooseneck with farm equipment. The big unknown for me is the 6.7 or 7.3. I'm waiting to see the numbers on the 7.3. I know both engines will be de-rated a bit, but I'm really leaning toward the 7.3 for cost and less maintenance. but we will see.
....... How can you not buy a 1000 lb tq engine that will probably churn it out at 1,800 rpm...
It’ll be tough to justify a gasser.
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Current C&C 6.7 has 750 FT. Lbs. Pretty sure the 2020 will barely break 800.
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From: Maine
Yes I'm a little spoiled but to tell the truth this one is my 3rd diesel and I've never really used all of it. I only have 7500 miles on my 2017 F350. I ordered it to haul a large 5th wheel, but those plans have changed. If the 7.3 with the 10 speed has the torque I'm expecting I may just go that way. But I also and going to remain opened minded because I plan to haul a 20k trailer along with the very large slide on camper, and I don't want to be crawling up the hills.
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From: Nevada
I’ve heard it both ways.. it really doesn’t matter to me if GM had a hand in it or not..
I guess IMO, I’ve never been one to be scared of new stuff. The fear posts usually comes from those who just bought the old stuff, and are frightened by the world of change and development as technology marches on.
I would buy a new truck today if the 2020 was available, but I know what’s coming will be a game changer.. more power and torque, and a transmission that will be almost seamless while holding the sweet spot. The calculations I’ve read are predicting 490/1015..
https://www.spediesel.com/blogs/blog...l-engine-specs... and that’s another good reason to wait....
For those who are thinking they are playing it safe, I tip my hat..
I guess IMO, I’ve never been one to be scared of new stuff. The fear posts usually comes from those who just bought the old stuff, and are frightened by the world of change and development as technology marches on.
I would buy a new truck today if the 2020 was available, but I know what’s coming will be a game changer.. more power and torque, and a transmission that will be almost seamless while holding the sweet spot. The calculations I’ve read are predicting 490/1015..
https://www.spediesel.com/blogs/blog...l-engine-specs... and that’s another good reason to wait....
For those who are thinking they are playing it safe, I tip my hat..
If Ford would only increase the GVWR for F350 SRW trucks.
11,500# is a little light when you are at the Ram dealership.
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For us, it was a much simpler matter... minimizing downtime. Downtime hurts business, damages reputation, and costs lots of money. Much more money than any possible perceived benefit to having the latest and greatest. Been there done that several times, at the most inopportune time, with Ford transmissions in F-450-550 chassis cabs deployed in the 15-16,000 lb scale weight range. Even the 6R140, as vaunted as it is today, had teething troubles back when it was new in 2011, particularly in second to third gear shifts, iirc.
Is Ford putting the new 10 speed transmission in the heavier 2020 F-650/750? No, Ford is staying with the 6 speed Torqshift for those heavier weight classes. What is Ford frightened of... their own "world of change and development?" Of course not.
Sometimes, it just boils down to a business decision. Uptime earns, downtime costs. Minimize downtime with proven product.