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Fleet Mechanic
Joined: Feb 2004
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From: midwest
a 2019 f350 dually pickup 6.2 4.30 is around 16k.
Mountain Pass
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From: Fort Collins
Laughing Gas
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My buddy gets about 8 while towing with his 6.2. I get over 10 mpg towing similar unit with my 6.7. Mine is probably a bit longer. In washington state, diesel is the same or less than 87 octane. If I am not towing and not driving like I stole it, I am well above 14 city and 17 to 18 highway. If I drive like my grandma on the hwy, I can average over 20. It's hard to compare b/c no two people drive alike.
Fleet Mechanic
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From: Green Springs, OH
Einhorn and Finkle,Finkle and Einhorn! Ahhh! Yep diesels are great so are gas engines. If you're a diesel fan drive it. If your a gas fan drive it. Let's not make this another gas vs. Diesel thread please. Sorry rant over. My input is if they try to 4-5k for the 7.3l gas engine not a lot of takers I dont think. The v10 was a $600 option over the standard 5.4l. I am betting we will 1200-2k for the 7.3 setup. Which isn't horrible I guess.
Laughing Gas
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Of course, this is just based on my near 30 years experience in the business. I could be wrong, but I doubt it.
Fleet Mechanic
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From: Green Springs, OH
Not a chance. At that price, they would simply jump the MSRP and scrap the 6.2l altogether. There is NO WAY you are going to see it at that price. If you're not familiar with the 7.3 promise, it is basically a diesel engine that takes regular gas. Yes, that's an over exaggeration but this is designed to perform much like a diesel with low speed torque. It is a brand new, ground up engine. It will cost ford more than that (above the cost of the 6.2l) to produce them. I do not believe there are any shared components.
Of course, this is just based on my near 30 years experience in the business. I could be wrong, but I doubt it.
Of course, this is just based on my near 30 years experience in the business. I could be wrong, but I doubt it.
Fleet Mechanic
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From: midwest
maybe it will be more than the diesel and everyone will have to reverse their justifications for diesel/gas
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Laughing Gas
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Again, who the heck knows. Good questions. I too am excited to see the feedback. I'll be breaking out the popcorn too. It should be exciting!
Elder User
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There will be a base 6.2 without the heavy towing capability. It will be mated to a 6 speed. Then there will be a 6.2 with 10 speed and higher towing capacity. Then there will be a 7.3 with 10 speed and probably even higher towing capacity.
So if we are speculating what the option charges are, keep those things in mind. It’s not going to be $600. But I don’t think it’s going to be $5000 either. I suspect about $1000 over the 6.2 with 10 speed. About $2000 over the 6.2 with 6 speed.
So if we are speculating what the option charges are, keep those things in mind. It’s not going to be $600. But I don’t think it’s going to be $5000 either. I suspect about $1000 over the 6.2 with 10 speed. About $2000 over the 6.2 with 6 speed.
Cargo Master
Joined: Oct 2005
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From: WNY
I would expect this to split the difference right down the middle so expect this is going to be a $4k-5k option. I would expect, based on what I've heard, that this is going to be closer to the PSD mileage than it is to the 6.2l mileage. This is a ground up build optimized for two things 1) low end torque and 2) optimal fuel usage.
The whole reason this engine was designed and built was for fleets. Fleets are feeling the pain of either 1) maintaining the new diesels or ) poor performance and fuel mileage of the 6.2L. Ford designed this for fleets that need low end torque, but don't necessarily need a diesel, want cheaper and consistent maintenance across their fleet (those that have some gas and some diesel now can move to all gas), and want a vehicle that doesn't need a tanker following it.
My guess is that once this comes out, there are going to be a whole lot of us diesel owners thinking, Hmmmmm. that may be my next rig. Just a hunch.
The whole reason this engine was designed and built was for fleets. Fleets are feeling the pain of either 1) maintaining the new diesels or ) poor performance and fuel mileage of the 6.2L. Ford designed this for fleets that need low end torque, but don't necessarily need a diesel, want cheaper and consistent maintenance across their fleet (those that have some gas and some diesel now can move to all gas), and want a vehicle that doesn't need a tanker following it.
My guess is that once this comes out, there are going to be a whole lot of us diesel owners thinking, Hmmmmm. that may be my next rig. Just a hunch.
Individually though, I have my reservations. I don’t see any naturally aspirated gas engine, with much less compression ratio making low end power under 2500 rpm. For me, that’s the deal breaker.
Cargo Master
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From: WNY
The question is this..are you as spoiled as I am? Will it be worth owning for a few years knowing that the diesel option was just a few bucks more?
I currently own a 6.0L gas GMC. Total dog. Tows my 10k boat up and down the road. But...every mile, I remember my deleted 6.4L, and how sick 1180 lbs of torque was, and what a pleasure it was to drive. I owned that truck for 8 years without issue.
Fleet Mechanic
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By no means did I NEED the diesel, it was definitely more of a want item. I dont think Ill have any regrets
Cargo Master
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From: WNY
I’m not a fleet buyer. I’m a me buyer, and it’s really no place where I want to talk myself into justifying a saved penny or two..
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