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Old Jul 17, 2016 | 01:47 PM
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With Positive cable disconnected and negative terminal connected, pin 48 reads 1. Pin 46 reads .9.

With negative terminal disconnected and testing continuity to pin 60, reading is .4.
Not good for pin 48, Not going to get +5vdc on that, check it again.

Also want to know your are using the right connector under the hood for STI.
 
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Old Jul 17, 2016 | 01:59 PM
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Yes, it is gray with a green wire.
Mine is grey as well.
Did you use this same connector back when you were able to check codes?
Any other single connectors close by?

You will need to take a closer look at that wire back to the ECA connector. Must be a break in it somewhere, if you are on the right connector and pin.
 
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Old Jul 17, 2016 | 02:02 PM
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I will have to explore where each of those wires go to. They're grounds so it shouldn't be too hard. Trial and error I suppose.

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Pins 40, 20 & 49 are also grounds, so check them when you get the chance.

Just be very sure you are on the right connector pins.
 
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Old Jul 17, 2016 | 02:07 PM
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The connector is grey with a green wire that has blue dashes on it. It is the same connector I used before when I was able to pull codes. At that time I used a test light and ran a jumper wire. There are no other similar connectors on that side (passenger side) of the vehicle. The loose connectors on the drivers side are male connectors.


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Mine is grey as well.
Did you use this same connector back when you were able to check codes?
Any other single connectors close by?

You will need to take a closer look at that wire back to the ECA connector. Must be a break in it somewhere, if you are on the right connector and pin.
 
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Old Jul 17, 2016 | 02:09 PM
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Pin #49 (EGO GND) is not hooked to a ground circuit in the EEC Computer.



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Where do it go ??
 
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Old Jul 17, 2016 | 02:14 PM
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I will have to explore where each of those wires go to. They're grounds so it shouldn't be too hard. Trial and error I suppose.
Oh yeah, sorry, Just check those grounds using your ohm meter at your ECA connector to the ground you had the paperclip connected to.

So, connect your neg test lead to ground. Use your pos test lead to probe those ground pins.

Record you readings.
 

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Old Jul 17, 2016 | 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by sgauvry
The connector is grey with a green wire that has blue dashes on it. It is the same connector I used before when I was able to pull codes. At that time I used a test light and ran a jumper wire. There are no other similar connectors on that side (passenger side) of the vehicle. The loose connectors on the drivers side are male connectors.
OK we'll assume you have the right connector. Just check to see if you have the right ECA connector pin.

If still an open connection "1", you will have to find the break in the wire.
 
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Old Jul 17, 2016 | 02:17 PM
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Yes. There's the rub. For me that's like looking at hieroglyphics. I will study it, but...

I know what grounds look like on the drawing...I think the trick for me will be translating the drawing to what's under the hood.


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Where do it go ??
 
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Old Jul 17, 2016 | 02:23 PM
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Where do it go ??
It gose back to the EEC Computer.

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Old Jul 17, 2016 | 02:40 PM
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So I noticed that at pin 48 the wire color is white with a red stripe. How could that be when the self test connector's wire is green with blue dashes. The white with red stripe wire was in the larger test connector. How did that happen? I have no idea. So I reversed them. I now can read codes. I got an 11, and a 10. I'll look that up. Yeah!!!



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Oh yeah, sorry, Just check those grounds using your ohm meter at your ECA connector to the ground you had the paperclip connected to.

So, connect your neg test lead to ground. Use your pos test lead to probe those ground pins.

Record you readings.
 
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Old Jul 17, 2016 | 02:44 PM
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The 10 is a space code between KOEO electrical test and the CM code read out.
If you are using a test light it the space code is just a single pulse.



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Old Jul 17, 2016 | 02:45 PM
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All of that - 23 pages - because of two swapped wires.....
 
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Old Jul 17, 2016 | 03:07 PM
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KOEO Codes = 11

KOER Coeds = 41 HO2S System Lean Bank 1
= 34 EVP Sensor Above Threshold
= 13 Cannot Control RPM During Self-Test Low RPM Check



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Not good for pin 48, Not going to get +5vdc on that, check it again.

Also want to know your are using the right connector under the hood for STI.
 
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Old Jul 17, 2016 | 03:09 PM
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Do not forget that the CM codes will tell you more than the KOEO & KOER self-tests as to what is happening on the road.
 
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Old Jul 17, 2016 | 03:09 PM
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Honestly, I never switched those. I have no idea who did. I had it to one shop about a year ago and I got the thing back more screwed up then when I took it there. Don't know why they would have done that, if they did.



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