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Old Jul 16, 2016 | 10:21 AM
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Thanks so much, Vincent!
Originally Posted by vjsimone
No worries, it is difficult for all of use to troubleshoot remotely, not being able to put our hands on your truck, so you are our hands and eyes.

"Put the diode in in the right direction electrically." (We can cover that when you get the diode)
 
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Old Jul 16, 2016 | 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by sgauvry
I am sorry if I appear to be a knucklehead. I don't understand this stuff so well.
Don't apologize, none of us came out of the womb knowing this stuff.

If you don't understand something, ask and somebody will help you - but please keep it in bite-size chunks.
 
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Old Jul 16, 2016 | 10:50 AM
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Thanks! I will try to keep my questions to the point.

Originally Posted by ctubutis
Don't apologize, none of us came out of the womb knowing this stuff.

If you don't understand something, ask and somebody will help you - but please keep it in bite-size chunks.
 
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Old Jul 16, 2016 | 10:55 AM
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Appreciate it, Festus!

Originally Posted by Festus Hagen
Excellent response ... You didn't get huffy, you just explained your lack of understanding. That's awesome cool!

When these folks say something you do not understand ... STOP, Ask, They will GLADLY explain, They are here because they do know and like not only to pass their knowledge on but help people just like you!

Remember, The only dumb question is the unasked one!
A dumb question to some, is a smart question to others!

Steve, This is a long help thread, it has lots of overwhelming info even for some that have been fixing stuff all their life ... So don't count yourself out, you're hanging in there pretty darn good!

-Enjoy
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Old Jul 16, 2016 | 11:24 AM
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There is a diode that looks exactly like this but is far removed from the bulk of wire in the harness. It's close to my Power Steering pump.

It comes from the fuel relay switch and connects to 10 wires.

- 2 wires (tan) run clear across the front of the engine to the passenger side of the vehicle and connect to a large plug that has two yellow wires coming from it's end. They run to the inertia switch.

- 1 green wire runs to the coil

- 1 green/white stripe wire runs back to the ECM

- 1 brown or black wire/pink stripe runs to the solenoid - there are 4 seperate wires that are attached to it. They are: 1 wire that runs to a resistor, one that runs to the coil, 1 that ones to the fuel relay, and one that runs to the ECM.

- 1 red wire (can't ell if there's a stripe or other coors) runs to ECM

- 1 red wire that runs to the TFI (I have that mounted remotely in a heat sink to get it away from the heat.

- 1 tan wire that appears to run back to the ECM

- 1 yellow wire that runs to the solenoid.

- 1 wire that runs to the oil temp sensor.

Is your posting intended as an example of a diode OR is this the diode all are referring to?

There is presently no diode connected to any wire that run to the IAC.







Originally Posted by subford
A salvage yard might be your best bet to get the diode.

Just for grins I just went a took a photo of a 1986 Ford Diode, this is what it looks like:



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Old Jul 16, 2016 | 12:11 PM
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It is an example of the diode Ford used in 1985. The one in the photos is the diode around the IAC in the 1986 Ford that I took the photo of.
I was thinking the two wires you have at that point is just a junction and is a source for the other red wire but it may have another source also before it gets back to the ECM Power relay.
 
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Old Jul 16, 2016 | 12:19 PM
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I thought so but wanted to be certain.

I have read that the later models (not sure when it started) had the diode in the connector to the IAC. That's not the case for my Ford.

Thanks for the example. I am following the advice of several here: I will do the test for the diode as recommended by NotEnoughTrucks2014 (although I am 100% certain it is not there), I will follow ctubutus's information and advice in tracking the correct wires to the correct position on the ECM connector (already done but will do again), and will get assistance from Vincent when I get the diode so that I connect it correctly.

Again, the amount of useful knowledge offered me is invaluable. I fully realize that if I were to have to pay for that at a dealership, it'd cost me a boatload. So I do not take the help I get here lightly.

Steve



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It is an example of the diode Ford used in 1985.
But I was thinking the diode for the IAC coil was inside the IAC.
I was also thinking the two wires you have at that point is just a junction and is a source for the other red wire but it may have another source also before it gets back to the ECM Power relay.
 
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Old Jul 16, 2016 | 12:38 PM
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I did edit the post in post number 306.
 
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Old Jul 16, 2016 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by subford
A salvage yard might be your best bet to get the diode.

Just for grins I just went a took a photo of a 1986 Ford Diode, this is what it looks like:



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Here is my picture of a diode/resistor combination from a 90s F150 but I have no idea from which circuit it came.

 
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Old Jul 16, 2016 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by sgauvry
Again, the amount of useful knowledge offered me is invaluable. I fully realize that if I were to have to pay for that at a dealership, it'd cost me a boatload. So I do not take the help I get here lightly.

Steve
That's nice of you to say, Steve, thank you.
 
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Old Jul 17, 2016 | 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by vjsimone
When you say "nothing" on pin 48 & 46, do you mean all Zeros? (000.0) or (1)?
Steve, did you ever answer my question about the resistance readings on pins 46 & 48. What were the readings? "nothing" is not a result of a resistance check unless you meant no resistance, but your meter would have had a reading for these pins.

Reference; Thread # 177
 

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Old Jul 17, 2016 | 12:09 PM
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Hello Vincent!

Yes. I got a reading of 1.

Originally Posted by vjsimone
When you say "nothing" on pin 48 & 46, do you mean all Zeros? (000.0) or (1)?
 
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Old Jul 17, 2016 | 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by 85lebaront2

One thing on those to take a long hard look at, near the battery negative post, attached to it, is a plug with a black/light green wire (or pair) that grounds the entire EEC system. It is a common issue on these as the connector is not a weather proof one and any extra resistance will drive the EEC crazy.
Steve, I know you looked at this wire earlier, but did you see a connector on that wire? Clean it? (Bro-Dave's connector is about 10" from the Neg. Battery Terminal)
 
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Old Jul 17, 2016 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by sgauvry
Hello Vincent!

Yes. I got a reading of 1.
That's not good......

When you set your meter to Rx200, what does your display show? And what does your meter show when you then touch the meter leads together?
 
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Old Jul 17, 2016 | 12:38 PM
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I actually got rid of the connector and replaced it. It appears to be a good, solid ground.

So, if I wanted to check it for continuity, I would disconnect it from the battery, use the paper clip method and put that into the correct slot in the ECM connector, put the positive lead at the other end and ground the negative lead, Correct?


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Steve, I know you looked at this wire earlier, but did you see a connector on that wire? Clean it? (Bro-Dave's connector is about 10" from the Neg. Battery Terminal)
 
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