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Old Jul 18, 2016 | 11:02 AM
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So let me run through this with you.

I use the jumper between ground and pin 29.

And I apply the voltmeter to the y pipe (?) and the other lead to the frame or body.

Oh - the O2 sensor is connected to the pipe and therefore forms a ground. Right?
No.... Just check between the pipe that the O2 screws into, pos test lead, and the vehicle body, anywhere with Neg test lead. Rx200.
 
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Old Jul 18, 2016 | 11:17 AM
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The first is a look at the engine.
The second is a look at the IAC. The third wire has been disconnected and is capped with a grey cap.
The third is a pic of the remote mounting in heat sink of the TFI module.
The 4th is the EGR setup. The shows the white O2 Connector and to it's right, the larger connector.











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I'm not looking for anything specifically but, in general, it might help guys here more quickly see exactly what you're using a lot of text to describe, connectors & wire colors & such.
 
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Old Jul 18, 2016 | 11:18 AM
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For some reason they all posted upside down. Sorry!

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The first is a look at the engine.
The second is a look at the IAC. The third wire has been disconnected and is capped with a grey cap.
The third is a pic of the remote mounting in heat sink of the TFI module.
The 4th is the EGR setup. The shows the white O2 Connector and to it's right, the larger connector.
 
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Old Jul 18, 2016 | 11:22 AM
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Wire nuts??????
 
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Old Jul 18, 2016 | 11:24 AM
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Temporary until I get the diode. Then I use butt crimps.
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Wire nuts??????
 
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Old Jul 18, 2016 | 11:33 AM
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No.... Just check between the pipe that the O2 screws into, pos test lead, and the vehicle body, anywhere with Neg test lead. Rx200.
Vehicles need to have a good ground connections. That’s why ground straps are added between the neg. batt. and the engine and the body. These connections get corroded and removed.

Your truck should have one from the back of the engine to the body, this one seems to disappear when engines are swapped or rebuilt.

Auto parts sells these straps for $6, or you can make them, but if you make them they must be soldered to last.
 
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Old Jul 18, 2016 | 11:45 AM
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Then I use butt crimps.
Only marginally better. Crimps with a garden-variety crimp/strip/cut tool are frequently less than well formed and the wire can often be pulled out. Plus, there's no protection from the environment.

For wire-to-wire connections I solder them if they are smaller than about 6 gauge. For connections involving a terminal I solder smaller wires, like up to 6 gauge, after crimping the terminal on with a ratcheting crimper. And for battery cables I have a 16 ton hydraulic crimper. But in all cases I cover the joint with adhesive-lined heat shrink tubing. That ensures the connection is well protected from the environment.
 
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Old Jul 18, 2016 | 11:51 AM
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Here is your missing Diode.






 

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Old Jul 18, 2016 | 11:54 AM
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I use butt crimps with heat shrink material as you can see in the photo (yellow) If I hear you correctly, you're saying these don't really do the job? Right?

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Only marginally better. Crimps with a garden-variety crimp/strip/cut tool are frequently less than well formed and the wire can often be pulled out. Plus, there's no protection from the environment.

For wire-to-wire connections I solder them if they are smaller than about 6 gauge. For connections involving a terminal I solder smaller wires, like up to 6 gauge, after crimping the terminal on with a ratcheting crimper. And for battery cables I have a 16 ton hydraulic crimper. But in all cases I cover the joint with adhesive-lined heat shrink tubing. That ensures the connection is well protected from the environment.
 
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Old Jul 18, 2016 | 11:55 AM
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OK. What I ordered doesn't look like that, but I suppose it doesn't have to as long as it's a diode in acceptable range. Right?

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Here is your missing Diode.



 
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Old Jul 18, 2016 | 11:59 AM
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Sorry, I still don't understand. Apply the jumper to 29 and ground - yes/no?

Then just use test leads, pos lead to pipe that O2 screws into, and body.


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No.... Just check between the pipe that the O2 screws into, pos test lead, and the vehicle body, anywhere with Neg test lead. Rx200.
 
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Old Jul 18, 2016 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by sgauvry
OK. What I ordered doesn't look like that, but I suppose it doesn't have to as long as it's a diode in acceptable range. Right?
I doubt you will find this style, unless you go to a junk yard. I know where one is, if you want to go that route, but for now I would go with what has been recommended.

I agree with Gary 100%, you need to solder all connections eventually.
 
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Old Jul 18, 2016 | 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by sgauvry
Sorry, I still don't understand. Apply the jumper to 29 and ground - yes/no?

Then just use test leads, pos lead to pipe that O2 screws into, and body.
forget pin 29..........

I am looking for you to prove a good ground between your exhaust pipe (near your O2) and your truck body.
 
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Old Jul 18, 2016 | 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by sgauvry
I use butt crimps with heat shrink material as you can see in the photo (yellow) If I hear you correctly, you're saying these don't really do the job? Right?
Yes and no. The factory crimped terminals on, so it is possible to get a good crimped connection. But, they used crimpers that apply far more pressure and have a much better profile than the garden-variety crimpers do. Using the latter I've been able to pull the wire out on many crimps, and that means the crimp isn't even close to being good. A good crimp is stronger than the wire and cannot be pulled out.

As for heat shrink tubing, there are at least two varieties of it - with and without adhesive. Without the adhesive the covering isn't waterproof, but with it the connection is well protected. Here's what I use: https://www.amazon.com/Swordfish-612...+shrink+tubing
 
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forget pin 29..........

I am looking for you to prove a good ground between your exhaust pipe (near your O2) and your truck body.
Grab your meter, crawl under your truck, select Rx200 ohm, poke the red test lead into the body of your truck, poke the black test lead into the pipe where the O2 screws in, record the reading.
 
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