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Old Jul 13, 2016 | 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by sgauvry
Hi Vince - Here are my findings:

The pink wire is registering 13.91 volts.
The yellow wire VDC fluctuated wildly. That is odd because my gas gauge works fine.
The orange wire registered .11.
The Maroon wire registered .11.

The pin order from left to right is as follows:
1. Orange
2. Pink
3. Yellow
4. Maroon.
All this is normal. Are you sure your in tank pump is not running? There is a possibility that you simply have a failed pump. If you apply 12 VDC to the pink/black(+) and orange(-) terminals, the pump should run and deliver low pressure fuel(around 6 psi) to the frame mounted high pressure fuel pump.
 
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Old Jul 13, 2016 | 09:58 AM
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Yup! When I pull the ebrake pedal upward, the light goes out. Looks like I have adjustments to do there also.

The good news is that the internal pump IS running. There was a break in one of the wires. That's been fixed and the internal pump is running again.

Now, I need to understand why I cannot pull any codes.



Originally Posted by ctubutis
It must be something else as these things don't *have* a check-engine light, not until 1988 did that come about. Given the location, it sounds to me like it's the switch that illuminates the BRAKE light when the parking brake is set.
 
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Old Jul 13, 2016 | 09:59 AM
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I cannot tell which light it is because the labels are all gone and my crappy Chilton doesn't explain the order.

Originally Posted by sgauvry
Yup! When I pull the ebrake pedal upward, the light goes out. Looks like I have adjustments to do there also.

The good news is that the internal pump IS running. There was a break in one of the wires. That's been fixed and the internal pump is running again.

Now, I need to understand why I cannot pull any codes.

Before I get into that, what order do the instrument cluster lights run. From left to right, is it the check engine light before the ebrake light or the ebrake light before the check engine light? I ask because the light farthest to the right flashes on briefly when I start the engine, but goes out. Yet, that is the same light that is on continuously when the ebrake connector is attached.
 
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Old Jul 13, 2016 | 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by ctubutis
but it would be ideal if I could return them in better shape than I got them.
Wow ... Rare mindset! I like!

All this aged equipment ... Is awaking memories intentionally left behind!

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Old Jul 13, 2016 | 10:08 AM
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Tank pump is now running. I had a break in the wire that I fixed. Thanks for your reply!

Originally Posted by NotEnoughTrucks2014
All this is normal. Are you sure your in tank pump is not running? There is a possibility that you simply have a failed pump. If you apply 12 VDC to the pink/black(+) and orange(-) terminals, the pump should run and deliver low pressure fuel(around 6 psi) to the frame mounted high pressure fuel pump.
 
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Old Jul 13, 2016 | 10:44 AM
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Oh, wow, those things are like GOLD!!! I will invite @85lebaront2 to this thread since they are his machines I am borrowing... do you think you could make photocopies of those things for us? Not sure how many Bill Vose has come up with (and I've had his machines for at least two years now) but it would be ideal if I could return them in better shape than I got them.
Subford, I will get my list and post them here, I have been trolling eBay for them and buying the ones I am missing. I did obtain a partial manual and listing of which overlay is for which system. Chris, as stated, has my monitor and monitor recorder (for 2 years). I only have one vehicle it will work on, a 1994 Taurus with 3.8L V6.
 
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Old Jul 13, 2016 | 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by ctubutis
Oh, wow, those things are like GOLD!!! I will invite @85lebaront2 to this thread since they are his machines I am borrowing... do you think you could make photocopies of those things for us? Not sure how many Bill Vose has come up with (and I've had his machines for at least two years now) but it would be ideal if I could return them in better shape than I got them.
I have a lot in .dwg format, can you open those?






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Old Jul 13, 2016 | 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by sgauvry
Tank pump is now running. I had a break in the wire that I fixed. Thanks for your reply!
Great! did you check the grounds?

You can check the Test Connector wiring, I'll write something up later. Off to PT for now....
 
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Old Jul 13, 2016 | 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by subford
I have a lot in .dwg format, can you open those?
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Looks like .dwg is a CAD format used by a product named AutoDesk, but there are apparently freely-available viewers I can try and make work.

I'm using Bill's stuff to try and figure out a problem on a 1995 Taurus SHO 3.0L MTX and got really delayed when my mom died.

Subford - if you could e-mail one or two .dwg things (ctubutis at yahoo dot com) I can try and make the viewer thing work, THANK YOU!!!
 
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Old Jul 13, 2016 | 02:57 PM
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I can open .dwg's in my TurboCAD. Then I can "print" it to jpg.
 
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Old Jul 13, 2016 | 02:58 PM
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Yes, .dwg is Autodesk AutoCAD, I have AutoCAD, I can convert them to images if needed ...

-Enjoy
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Old Jul 13, 2016 | 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Festus Hagen
Yes, .dwg is Autodesk AutoCAD, I have AutoCAD, I can convert them to images if needed ...

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That's the best way. Sometimes converting to TurboCAD looses something in translation.
 
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Old Jul 13, 2016 | 03:26 PM
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That's the best way. Sometimes converting to TurboCAD looses something in translation.
Happy to do so with pleasure!
There is still a slight resolution loss between CAD and JPG conversions.

Let me know and I'll PM an email addy to whomever ... If it's a bunch it might be easier to snail mail a CD!

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Old Jul 13, 2016 | 03:28 PM
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Put them on Google Drive or Drop Box. As for printing, I use Bullzip. It is a free "printer" that creates a jpg or pdf, or whatever you want basically.
 
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Old Jul 13, 2016 | 04:20 PM
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Well this is embarrassing.
I could not open the overlay files ending in *.dwg this morning and It has been a number of years that I did the work with them and could not open them up on the computer I was own. It is hard to remember some stuff when you get into your 70's.

So I opened them this afternoon when I got on an old computer with InterlliCad 2000 and they were for making the overlays with no specific overlay. I know I took photos of them and will have to find where I put them but it may take awhile. There still may be some *.dwg files some place.
 
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