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John, I have a small 90* drill if it will help. Put a small drill bit in it and drill down thru the center.
If the top is to buggered up and you said cant get the grinder in there to make it flat to get the drill started I have a Dremel if you think that will work?
I think you can also get to the bottom side of that bolt to drill up. Once you get thru it you can drill the rest out from the top.
I think I would drill thru it with say a 1/8" bit then drill out the upper part that is stick in the "nut" in the floor almost to the threads leaving the bottom big and thick.
Then get a vise grip on the bigger bottom part and see if it will twist out.
On the burnt belt good thing it is the red one and not the blue one you want to use
On the shows & meets I think they will all be canceled.
Wife just told me the pet adaption at Pet Smart at White Oak has bee canceled till who knows when.
But keep me posted just in case as I got a truck all dressed up and no place to go
Work got me back on cement so I start late and get home late now
I should be around Sat. & Sun if you need me to bring over tools or need a hand.
Dave ----
Hey Dave I am thinking the same thing about drilling it out, except I'm thinking to use 1/2 inch drill bit at the top to hopefully cut through the head completely, and then go underneath and if I can't get it with vice grips, weld a nut onto the bolt from the bottom and back it out that way.
I do have a dremel with some carbide tips, maybe that's a backup plan if I can't get the drill plan to work.
I got some potentially bad news for you; I pulled off the hubcaps on that parts truck and this is a small bolt pattern setup. So I don't know if that would affect your thought about using some of the suspension parts or not.
Hey Dave, if you're serious about changing the front end, I have a pair of I beams etc. that came off a 86 F150 - actually came from NC (Louisburg) that I could bring down. I was keeping the rotors as they'll fit my 79. On facebook market place there's a listing for Bendix rotors PRT1067 which will fit 75-93 F150. $53 for the pair. Located in Pilot Mtn.. I think it's the F100 that uses the smaller bolt pattern.
Dave we know both of these trucks are Frankensteins, cobbled together from several other trucks! lol.
I got to thinking, after I wrote that, could you just put the hub & rotor from a 5x5.5 truck onto those spindles? That way you could keep your rims but have the IFS setup.
We won't be able to get together tomorrow after all, my daughter just closed on a house today (4 days late, kept getting pushed back), so I am going down to Wilmington tomorrow to help them move in.
I finished cleaning & painting the rims, mounted the center caps, then I had some old tires mounted on them so I could put them on the truck. This is the look I was going for!
Freshly painted, maybe a few drips & sags.. New black plastic center caps All four finished Mounted on the truck! Two of the tires from the parts truck, the other two were on the rims when I bought them. All are dry rotted and not good for the road, but should be fine "rollers" in the meantime.
Hey Dave, if you're serious about changing the front end, I have a pair of I beams etc. that came off a 86 F150 - actually came from NC (Louisburg) that I could bring down. I was keeping the rotors as they'll fit my 79. On facebook market place there's a listing for Bendix rotors PRT1067 which will fit 75-93 F150. $53 for the pair. Located in Pilot Mtn.. I think it's the F100 that uses the smaller bolt pattern.
At this time I don't know what I want to do with the suspension and being I rebuilt what I got there is no rush to go replacing it.
Thanks for the offer and if I change my mind I will let you know and if you still have them good but don't wait for me if you get an offer for them.
Dave ----
Dave we know both of these trucks are Frankensteins, cobbled together from several other trucks! lol.
I got to thinking, after I wrote that, could you just put the hub & rotor from a 5x5.5 truck onto those spindles? That way you could keep your rims but have the IFS setup.
We won't be able to get together tomorrow after all, my daughter just closed on a house today (4 days late, kept getting pushed back), so I am going down to Wilmington tomorrow to help them move in.
I finished cleaning & painting the rims, mounted the center caps, then I had some old tires mounted on them so I could put them on the truck. This is the look I was going for!
Freshly painted, maybe a few drips & sags.. New black plastic center caps All four finished Mounted on the truck! Two of the tires from the parts truck, the other two were on the rims when I bought them. All are dry rotted and not good for the road, but should be fine "rollers" in the meantime.
I am thinking if the ball joint suspension is like the kingpin like I have the spindles are different between the 5.5 & 4.5 and you cant swap the hubs around as I found out.
The wheels turned out great and makes the truck pop.
I know you will not be home, congrats to your daughter and the new house, I may swing by just to check out the wheel in person.
Someone has to check up on the job you are doing LOL
I went looking for the parts truck transmission hump cover as I think the shifter hole will line up better with the transmission swap and I will not need to cut up the one in the truck and keep it as is.
Thing is in the quick look I did I could not find it so I am going to get deeper into looking tomorrow as it has to be around some where.
Dave ----
Replacing some crappy Moog ball joints, yes Moog, after the lower one started clunking after a little over 100k on it. Ended up having to use heat, a sawzall and bfh to remove it. Went back with spicer greasable ones. Decided to replace u joints and seals since the front end was partially apart. New Spicer joints and skf seals should keep it in good shape for a long time. Used ultra grey rtv to reseal the differential to the axle beam and these pins made from 3/8s bolts made lining it up super easy. Axle vent was plugged solid, isn't now. Got tired of it leaking gear oil everywhere when I rarely ever use 4wd.
Well Autozone website shows the same part number for the bearings for an 82 F-100 (which would have the smaller bolt pattern) and the 83 F-100 (which would have the correct bolt pattern), so doesn't that mean the hub/rotor could easily be swapped from one to the other?
Believe the 5x4.5 was the f100s and the 5x5.5 is f150s. I don't believe it was just balljoint vs kingpin.
Both on my trucks were F100's and each had different patterns and don't go thinking it has to do with GVW as both of my trucks where 4700 also.
Beside kingpins 1 had power brakes (4.5) the other did not (5.5) so it is not 100 / 150 model thing.
Each one has different size rear drum brakes also.
On the joint thing I thought by the time they went to joints the pattern was only 5.5 till they went metric and why I said what I did.
Guess not but then again we don't really know what year that truck is, cant see the VIN's, or if anything has been swapped around and as we all know that never happens
Dave ----
Now I'm curious. The 86 F150 I got has 5.5.. Ford might have been using up parts or ?
Wonder if it has anything to do with the "Swiss cheese" frame that they used on some of the trucks.....
Well Autozone website shows the same part number for the bearings for an 82 F-100 (which would have the smaller bolt pattern) and the 83 F-100 (which would have the correct bolt pattern), so doesn't that mean the hub/rotor could easily be swapped from one to the other?
We did a little checking on the other Bullnose site and found both patterns use the same inner / outer bearings and seals so you would think you could / should be able to swap them.
Now before this was checked I did measure the races on the bearing and did see they were the same.
I then tried to swap the hubs / rotors and found you cant as the large BP rotor hits the small BP spindle caliper mount way before the inner bearing is close to seating.
The off set of the disc of the 2 rotors are different, as is the dia. by a half inch (1/4" each side).
You cant swap the spindles to the beans as the kingpins are different sizes between them and I knew this going in to this suspension swap.
You can swap the whole suspensions but not parts between them as I found out. And the dust shields are also different between them as are the calipers & pads.
When you make 1 truck from 2 you learn a lot
Dave ----
Replacing some crappy Moog ball joints, yes Moog, after the lower one started clunking after a little over 100k on it. Ended up having to use heat, a sawzall and bfh to remove it. Went back with spicer greasable ones. Decided to replace u joints and seals since the front end was partially apart. New Spicer joints and skf seals should keep it in good shape for a long time. Used ultra grey rtv to reseal the differential to the axle beam and these pins made from 3/8s bolts made lining it up super easy. Axle vent was plugged solid, isn't now. Got tired of it leaking gear oil everywhere when I rarely ever use 4wd.
You were a busy boy.
It is bad enough just ball joints but then deal with the 4x4 axles & joints too is too much for me.
Nice job
Dave ----
Dave they made it into a nightmare, so it's "everything swaps" or "nothing swaps". If you want to stop by today to look it over I should be around, other than a quick trip to the grocery store in the next hour.
GLR the 5.5 is the regular, normal, correct, pattern, but the 4.5 pattern was 1980-82 I think? Dusty knows better than me, he corrected me in a comment on FB about small pattern F-100's. I'd never even heard of it (meanwhile I had one sitting outside in the yard with hubcaps on that I had never checked).
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