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Old Jan 24, 2015 | 12:41 PM
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I started pulling the 28-spline axles and seals out of the 9-inch housing this morning.

There are various types of hammers designed to do very specific jobs. There's one type of hammer designed specifically for the removal of axle shafts, if the axle won't slide out by hand. That type of hammer is a slide hammer. --some people invert the brake drum and use it as a slide hammer. With the drum being drug across the wheel studs, that's a good way to flatten out the wheel stud threads. It's also a good way to permanently warp/distort the drum casting and, a ball-pein hammer will make flat spots along the edge of the wheel flange.







Axle seal ready to come out.



A change of attachments on the slide hammer and the axle seal can be pulled from the housing.



Axle seal popped out of the bore on the end of the axle tube.



Time to install the new axle seal with a larger I.D. to fit the larger O.D. of the journal on the 31-spline axle. I use my set of bearing race/seal drivers to install the axle seals. I also apply a thin layer of Permatex Ultra Black RTV around the out side of the seals metal shell, as added insurance against leaks, just prior to installing the seal. --the new axle seal for the 31-spline axle is a NAPA/SKF brand seal p/n 15960 (made in the USA).



New seal for the larger 31-spline axle installed.



....and a shop rag stuffed in the hole to keep dirt and dust out until the axle bearings get here and then the axles can be installed.



Comparison of skinnier 28-spline axle on the left compared to beefier 31-spline axle on the right.



That's one side down, one more to go then, time to swap out 3rd members.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2015 | 12:52 PM
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Yummm. Beefy! I'm sure ya got copper washers are the ready for the N-case!

Btw, who makes that slide hammer ("knocker") of yours? Did it come with bodywork attachments or is it an option?
 
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Old Jan 24, 2015 | 12:57 PM
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Before you go pressing the axle bearings on check those mount plates to fit your housing. Over the lifetime of the 9" (ers) there were quite a few mount plates and gaskets. Different inner hole,4 bolt pattern, and 3/8" or 1/2" bolt holes.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2015 | 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by HIO Silver
Yummm. Beefy! I'm sure ya got copper washers are the ready for the N-case!

Btw, who makes that slide hammer ("knocker") of yours? Did it come with bodywork attachments or is it an option?
3/8" copper washers were 373820-S. However parts store brake hose banjo bolt copper washers can be used.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2015 | 01:42 PM
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Yummm. Beefy! I'm sure ya got copper washers are the ready for the N-case!

Btw, who makes that slide hammer ("knocker") of yours? Did it come with bodywork attachments or is it an option?
Where's the beef? THERE'S the beef!

I tried to find a set of copper crush washers yesterday. O'Reilly's had some packs in the Help Section for caliper banjo bolts. It was like an 8 or 10 pack of washers but in pairs of varying sizes within the two packs they had. Not enough of the same size washers to do (10) studs and, I didn't want all different size O.D. and I.D. copper washers on the 3rd member.

The nuts are prevailing torque lock nuts. The only purpose of the copper washers is to crush down around the 3rd member-to-housing studs, when the nuts are torqued down, to help guard against gear oil leaks from around the studs. A little Permatex Ultra Black on the threads will accomplish the same thing, --if I can't find (10) copper washers of the same I.D. and O.D.

In reference to your question on my slide hammer; It's a 10-way set I bought through NAPA (NAPA label on it) back in 2003 or 2004 (p/n 3594). I THINK it's made by OTC (Owatonna Tool Company --the same people that make service department tools for Ford). It wasn't a cheap set --$331.00 best I remember but, I have used it a LOT and it's saved my butt plenty of times and been well worth the price tag. My set is more for mechanical use but, I'm sure you can get body working attachments for it.

My slide hammer and bearing race/seal driver sets.

 
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Old Jan 24, 2015 | 01:54 PM
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Brake banjo bolt copper washers. Part number E0AZ2149B. Available from Ford. Suggested list price $1.36 each. I'm sure your local Ford dealer will have them in stock.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2015 | 01:56 PM
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Before you go pressing the axle bearings on check those mount plates to fit your housing. Over the lifetime of the 9" (ers) there were quite a few mount plates and gaskets. Different inner hole,4 bolt pattern, and 3/8" or 1/2" bolt holes.
Like Ford brake systems, I'm very familiar with Ford 9-inch rear ends too. I did my homework before getting the axles to know what would fit in the 9-inch housing I have.

The 31-spline stamped steel axle retainers have the same configuration of (4) 1/2" holes and are on the same centers as the existing 28-spline stamped axle retainers. --They are both on the old style Ford large axle bearing housing flange pattern.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2015 | 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by JEFFFAFA
Before you go pressing the axle bearings on check those mount plates to fit your housing. Over the lifetime of the 9" (ers) there were quite a few mount plates and gaskets. Different inner hole,4 bolt pattern, and 3/8" or 1/2" bolt holes.
Here is the stamped steel axle retainer, from one of the 31-spline axles, stabbed onto the (4) T-bolt studs on the end of the axle housing flange.

 
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Old Jan 24, 2015 | 02:52 PM
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Here is the stamped steel axle retainer, from one of the 31-spline axles, stabbed onto the (4) T-bolt studs on the end of the axle housing flange.

Oh, I know you're on top of your game Steve. Anybody can over look something. I just wanted to make sure before you go pressing the one time bearings and collars. I had your back.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2015 | 03:52 PM
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Oh, I know you're on top of your game Steve. Anybody can over look something. I just wanted to make sure before you go pressing the one time bearings and collars. I had your back.
Many people may not know this but installing axle bearings on an axle is a one-shot deal.

If you pressed a new set of axle bearings and the bearing retainer ring onto the axle, then, realized you forgot to install the stamped steel axle retainer FIRST and you had to press the bearing/bearing ring off to put the axle retainer on, you can go ahead and put that brand new bearing and bearing retainer ring right over in the trash can.

It doesn't matter if the bearing is brand new right out of the box, has never been used or, has zero hours of use on it. It's now cannon fodder.

The axle bearing and retaining ring are interference fit items. This means the act of pressing them onto the journal of the axle actually stretches the I.D. of the bearing and the ring. It will only be that tight once.

If the bearing/ring are removed and then re-installed on the axle, they will not have the same grip to the axle journal they did the first time because they were stretched the first time.

Putting a previously installed bearing on an axle runs a great risk of the bearing/ring losing its grip on the axle and the axle can come sliding out of the housing, while the vehicle is at speed.

--It's dangerous. Don't do it!

Also, axle bearings and retainer rings should not be pressed on together. Press the axle bearing on first, THEN, press the bearing retainer ring on.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2015 | 06:10 PM
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Old Jan 24, 2015 | 08:21 PM
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I started taking the C7AW single vertical rib 9-inch 3rd member loose so I can pull it out of the housing.



I broke it loose and the gear oil started coming out. It seems like it's been coming out of there for an hour now while I've been waiting.



I was out here in the shop until 1:00 a.m. this morning cleaning up the N-case. I don't think I'm going to be that dedicated tonight waiting to pull this 3rd member. I'm just going to let it drip over night and attack it again in the morning.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2015 | 08:29 PM
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Grab a roll of paper towels or rags and latex gloves before heading into the garage tomorrow... there will still be gear oil in the bottom of the housing.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2015 | 09:55 PM
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Grab a roll of paper towels or rags and latex gloves before heading into the garage tomorrow... there will still be gear oil in the bottom of the housing.
Yep, I've been down this road with 5 different rear ends just in my '68 Mustang alone. It originally had the stock 8-inch rear with a single track 2.79 ratio.

Way back when, I put an 8-inch rear end under it that had a Ford Equa-Lok 2-pinion differential and 3.00:1 gears.

Later on, I installed a '57 Ford station wagon 9-inch large axle bearing rear end under it.

Eventually, I replaced that with a '79 Lincoln Versailles 9-inch large axle bearing housing with factory rear disc brakes.

That got changed to an '80 model Mercury Monarch 9-inch small axle bearing drum brake rear end. I designed the adapter brackets to replace the rear drums and installed 11-5/8" ventilated '94-'04 SN95 Cobra rear disc rotors with Ford/Varga Cobra rear disc brake calipers.

This is what the '80 Monarch small axle bearing drum brake 9-inch rear end looked like, when I got it from the wrecking yard.



1980 Mercury Monarch 9-inch small axle bearing (formerly) drum brake rear end I converted to Cobra rear discs. --that's my OTHER factory (bare) N-case in the Monarch rear end housing. Not a Daytona version but, an N-case nonetheless.







Mock-up of the prototype adapter brackets, to check fitment of the Cobra rear disc brake components, on the remnant of a small bearing 9-inch axle tube from a '59 Fairlane.





 
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