Snowseekers 6.0 experience.
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From: Stuttgart, Ar
Unless the pump you sent me was a 90mm pump my cover has never been changed and your pump fit perfectly. I think there is a difference in how the lower hose comes off the pump cover on the newer covers?
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The pump you received is the 100mm pump.
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From: Stevens Point, WI
But without a dowel pin you are relying on the shank
of the bolts for alignment. I can see it not sitting the
same as when it was put together and had the finish
grinding done. I might do it if I had to but if I don't
then I won't. Plus if you do pull the bed plate you will
know that it has been sealed with a fresh seal.
While we are on this subject I have this to share with you.
If you would like I can take some measurements so you
can see if you can make one.
Sean
of the bolts for alignment. I can see it not sitting the
same as when it was put together and had the finish
grinding done. I might do it if I had to but if I don't
then I won't. Plus if you do pull the bed plate you will
know that it has been sealed with a fresh seal.
While we are on this subject I have this to share with you.
If you would like I can take some measurements so you
can see if you can make one.
Sean
It may be that the flange is specific to the crankshaft it was originally mated to for balance reasons. By the video and just from what IH/Ford engineering states that "small" amount of weight makes a difference. It would be interesting to see if rotating it gives it a different runout.
What I am thinking is the crank was almost intentionally machined with a runout at the flywheel side. Then the balancer was attached and was machined true. OR basically the same scenario but with the bolt holes being drilled slightly off true. That way if the balancer is in any spot but the right spot the flywheel and torque converter have runout which cause the shake which also would cause failing seals and take out the bearings.
Either way, if I go the route of pulling that balancer off the crank I will check it over with a fine tooth comb and find out what is exactly is not machined or drilled true.
I am just totally dumbfounded why on earth they would put that adapter on there unless they planned to use multiple different adapters for different flywheels for different vehicles. Otherwise there is no reason for that extra part, bolts, process, and whatnot. It is a waste of manufacturer money and they don't take kindly to that kind of shenanigans.
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From: Stevens Point, WI
Took some more stuff apart today.
Found some of the first needles bearings I have seen.
The screen was popped off the end (not sure if o-ring caused it) and the o-ring was wavy.
The pump cover got it the worst.
The lifter and the pieces I found in the pan and pickup screen.
Found some of the first needles bearings I have seen.
The screen was popped off the end (not sure if o-ring caused it) and the o-ring was wavy.
The pump cover got it the worst.
The lifter and the pieces I found in the pan and pickup screen.
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Is there any easy way to know one of these lifters is going bad and about to break apart like this? A friend just had the same problem on an 06 model. Just did my heads and studs had I known about this I would have looked closer at mine before it went back together. Keeping my fingers crossed and all that other stuff! 
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From: Stuttgart, Ar
I'd be tempted to pull the freeze plugs from the lifter oil galleys and check them for debris also. Are you going to completely strip the block from here or just try to clean everything out and leave the pistons "intact"?
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From: Spanaway
was taken out of the circumference. Place the ring back in and check the
side play with a feeler gauge. I'll look up the clearances later for you.
Is there any easy way to know one of these lifters is going bad and about to break apart like this? A friend just had the same problem on an 06 model. Just did my heads and studs had I known about this I would have looked closer at mine before it went back together. Keeping my fingers crossed and all that other stuff!
over 200K miles he will replace the lifters. He does a lot of cab off
work so I don't see it as being too hard to get to the back side of the
engine to pop the cover and pull the branch tubes so the lifters can
be swapped out for a new set.
Sean
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Pistons will be staying in. Everything cylinder wise looks perfect so I won't touch any of that. I think with the motor being as full as it was, everything got a good bath wash down to the pan. I'll put a couple of those super strong earth magnets on the drivers side of the pan and check it during oil changes. Everything I am seeing seems to show that the oil cooler and filter stopped everything but possibly some super fine dust.
Looks like metal munchies. Here is one thing to check just to see how much
was taken out of the circumference. Place the ring back in and check the
side play with a feeler gauge. I'll look up the clearances later for you.
There is a shop in Tacoma that any time he has an engine in that is
over 200K miles he will replace the lifters. He does a lot of cab off
work so I don't see it as being too hard to get to the back side of the
engine to pop the cover and pull the branch tubes so the lifters can
be swapped out for a new set.
Sean
was taken out of the circumference. Place the ring back in and check the
side play with a feeler gauge. I'll look up the clearances later for you.
There is a shop in Tacoma that any time he has an engine in that is
over 200K miles he will replace the lifters. He does a lot of cab off
work so I don't see it as being too hard to get to the back side of the
engine to pop the cover and pull the branch tubes so the lifters can
be swapped out for a new set.
Sean
I would as well if I were doing studs and gaskets! After seeing more than a few of these now I would be totally tempted to put lifters in any 6.0 with over 150 on it while doing the other work. Besides, whats another $400 while a guy is "bulletproofing" his 6.0. lol
I would very much appreciate that tolerance spec as well!
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From: Spanaway
It's not very likely that any of the bearing fragments made it past
the oil filter. But there is one place where it would be a disaster
and that is in the piston cooling jets. Plug one of the ports up and
that piston will be in a world of hurt fast.
Just a thought.
Sean
the oil filter. But there is one place where it would be a disaster
and that is in the piston cooling jets. Plug one of the ports up and
that piston will be in a world of hurt fast.
Just a thought.
Sean
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From: Saratoga Springs,UT
I don't know what the Big Deal is Over the Water Pump anyways
The 10mm Bigger water Pump didn't solve the Problem
The Problem is a Plastic Impeller on a Metal Shaft that Slips
To Bulletproof the problem Everyone needs a Water Pump that Metal Impeller on Metal shaft
Its like folks Try to make it out like 90mm Wont Cool and that Bigger 100mm pump is the saving Grace LOL
When In Fact the System has the capacity to cool VERY VERY Well with Either size Water Pump IMO
and the weak link is the Impellar
The 10mm Bigger water Pump didn't solve the Problem
The Problem is a Plastic Impeller on a Metal Shaft that Slips
To Bulletproof the problem Everyone needs a Water Pump that Metal Impeller on Metal shaft
Its like folks Try to make it out like 90mm Wont Cool and that Bigger 100mm pump is the saving Grace LOL
When In Fact the System has the capacity to cool VERY VERY Well with Either size Water Pump IMO
and the weak link is the Impellar
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From: Saratoga Springs,UT
I mean its very common that Everyone says the FAN Kicks on and the Temps SHOOT Down no matter the Pump size they had
You want to run cooler Custom tune the Fan different
Guess its obvious I didn't agree with some changes Ford Made LOL
You want to run cooler Custom tune the Fan different
Guess its obvious I didn't agree with some changes Ford Made LOL