IPR is bad?

They wont service that part either.

I honestly don't see how they can go "bad" after i tore mine apart. Its a simple part submerged in oil. If anything happens to it, it just gets gunked up and the piston inside cannot operate, or the needle valve gets gummed up and doesn't work.
The truck wont start if the needle valve isn't even in there.
I know. I did it. haha

I wish I was closer, I'd come give you a hand budd.

 

Brownie.
If you want to take apart your IPR and try cleaning it. I will mail you my socket if it will help you save some money.

An O-ring kit for it is fairly cheap as well. Mine were bad on my IPR causing irregular idle.

 

I'd take you up on it, but with my work schedule and everything else going on right now I just can't get to it myself. Plus since it's at the dealer already I'd have to pay out of pocket to get it towed back home. I'm going to let them fix it (or try to).

 

IPR removal is about a 30 min job or 1 hour. depending on if your in the shade or not.

 

How much can a cracked pickup tube contribute to poor lpop pressure? Also is there a filter strainer on the flared head of the pickup tube?

 

If the crack in the tube is above the oil level , the pump will suck air ..It will not drain the res though..

 

Thanks Rick
Evan you were not having a HPOP reservoir problem too were you?

 

The dealership quoted me $1,300 for diagnostics, parts, and repair hours.

Turns out the IPR is fine. The ICP sensor is bad, and the LPOP has no pressure going to the HPOP.

They want to charge $180 for a ICP sensor, I found one on Ebay for $85 shipped. Anyone else got a better price? p/n F4TZ-9F838-A

Other parts include a $10 gasket, $16 bolt, $80 rotor, $24 seal, $15 kit-elem, anti-freeze, and oil.

Including the ICP sensor they want $410 for parts, $550 for labor, and $250 for diagnostic.

And they still havn't found anyone with the tool to replace the LPOP.


The HPOP isn't getting a supply of oil to refill it.

 

Keep your cool and ask some question, not on the phone but on site. Play stupid and see if they answer. Write everything down or bring a recorder.

 

I would but I can't get away from work to go. They are only open weekdays until 5:30pm and I usually am not off work till 5pm, and live a half hour away from the dealer.

 

Then that would mean it's completely safe to remove the plug from the HPOP reservoir and then crank the motor, right? Nothing coming out of the LPOP would mean doing this would NOT spray oil all over their shop floor (and the underside of your hood and your engine)

I'm having a hard time believing both the ICP sensor and the LPOP suddenly went bad at the same time. Can they find the special crows foot tool to remove the ICP sensor, or will they need to borrow one of those too?

I'd really suggest you step back and look at the big picture. The dealer has had your truck for how many days now and all you've got so far is an estimate? You know there will be further delays because they do not have the magic tool required. You know you're out their diagnostic fee any way you look at it. You know you can save $100 on the IPC sensor by not buying it from the dealer, and you know that if you had to make the time, you would be able to install said ICP sensor yourself, right?

I'm not saying the problem is the ICP sensor, I'm just pointing out that since you've already found $100 in savings, put that $100 towards a tow truck and get your truck towed to an independent mechanic. The school bus, ambulance repair shop sounds like a good place if you can find one.

Take your loss on the diagnostic fee and get the truck to someone who will fix it before your kid has a birthday. The Ford diesel techs are busy with the 6.0 & 6.4's. A little $1,300 repair isn't worth them even getting out of bed for.

 

how the heck can they tell if the ICP sensor is bad, did they put it in an engine with a working LPOP? If there is no oil to the HP oil pump then how is the hp oil pump going to build the pressure needed to run the injectors and not set a code for un able to build ICP durring cranking. These guys are stupid they clearly dont even work on 6.0s or they would know that. Ask them at the verry least how they know the ICP sensor is or what codes they pulled out of it.

 

What Chris said .. Get the truck out of there .. They will try to justify the wasted part testing ..so far they have not said how they know anything .. they can pull the LPOP without any special tools and ,for sudden failure , something should be visibly missing ..The ICP may be bad ,but will not cause the problem you are having

 

Exactly what Rick and Chris said. Get someone else to get it out of there with a rope. ICP, hell un plug it and drive it. Sorry this is piz ing me off a tad. I and not sure where you live but if its not to far I will come help you fix it; if needed.

 

The ICP sensor was leaking oil out of it. So it is bad.

They did pressure tests on the whole oil system and found the LPOP to be bad.

I cannot drive it because it will not run. No oil is getting to the HPOP. I can fill the HPOP and it'll run for 3 seconds and then die with the HPOP completely drained.