I agree the gasser is enough for me. I owned a diesel once and that was enough. I had fuel problems a couple times in the winter that left me stranded. Then there is the filling station issues. There are not that many diesel pumps around, so I typically had to wait for some prius owner to buy coffee and ding dongs because he blocked the only diesel pump. I could go to the truck stop, stand in that oily mess & fill up. Then my shoes and hands would stink. The back of my truck would get this ugly black film on it so I needed to do extra washes. Add to that the extra maintenance costs and it just didn't work out. I'm hoping Ford puts the EB in the F250, then I would have the perfect truck. The Raptor EB looks nice, I hope Ford drops that thing into the F250.

 

I grew up on a farm and we had both gas and diesel trucks. We had mostly Fords and a couple Chevys. Fords were the FE and Windsor gas engines and 2-7.3 diesels 1st and 2nd gens. Chevy's were the 350 V-8. When the diesels weren't in the shop, they were work horses. Love to drive them, but I had sphincter anxiety every time because you never knew when it would require wrenching on. Now the gassers, you could run the spank outta them and not worry about making it home for dinner.


These days I help drive for a local farm and they have the gamut of Fords. Diesels and gassers from '90's to present day. Same thing except both platforms have more power. They do not care about how much weight is loaded so these trucks get abused. Every diesel has had some kind of repairs within 100k. Be it EGR issues, oil coolers, turbo's... He has had some gas failures as well and they have mostly been with the 6.2's blown engines(conn. rods) He has been buying the F450/550 chassis cabs the last 2 years with the V10's. He says those engines have been the most reliable and cost effective according to his business analysis.


For me I consider this to be a real life testimony as to what each engine platform is capable of and required repairs and maintenance expected for both. I do not need a diesel and probably will never own one. But to each his own.

 

Blown rods in a 6.2? In more than one? First I've read of this at all and I've scoured over 150 and raptor forums quite a bit too?

 

X2 I think we would of heard something on this forum if it was an epidemic. 2 on one farm, Poor maintenance or just a bunch of cowboys. They didn't pay for them who gives a hoot.

 

I think the 6.2's were early 2011's and had over 100k on them. Bought brand new as most of his equipment is.
Some of the drivers he has employed are not very respectable of other people's equipment. Like I said, these trucks get abused. I know that he has had the other American brands and will not buy them anymore because they do not last. He says Ford is the toughest longest lasting trucks he has had and that is all he will buy.

 

Farming and ranch operations can give a new meaning to server use and abuse.

Denny

 

You called the cops on your neighbor cause he warmed up his truck in the morning? Wow you sound like a great guy to live next to

 

Just for the sake of argument heres what a 6.0 can tow



Even the title has the same info according to NM DOT its a legal document and valid, have we ever combined the 39,000 lbs no, but we have combined it up to 33,000lbs

 

Cool, I know for a fact a certain 06 F350 V10 has pulled a gross of 36,000 lbs just fine as well but 6000 lbs over are local legal limit multiple times ..... They are both awesome engines in my opinion.

 

What can the cops do about someone warming their vehicle up? Can't control the wind or lack thereof... If you're on your own property tough beans for your neighbors

 

Most 7.3 owners go ridiculous amounts of miles without having any diesel related repairs, heui systems are considered medium to heavy in terms of their service life. Fuel lubricated rotarys and early common rails are light to medium, while later common rails are medium+.

A bad apple on top of the fresh bushel stands out...

Most people aren't shooting spark plugs through their hoods with modulars either, but the vast majority of diesel owners aren't losing sleep over costly repairs. Nor are modular owners losing sleep.

Everyone has their experiences one way or another, but the quiet majority are those who have no issues, and you rarely hear them pipe up and say how lucky they've been for going xxxxxx amount of miles with no issues. Human nature; complaints are far more frequent despite being the minority.

I've learned to notice and appreciate things that aren't going wrong; good neighbors are one thing on that list.

 

That's why I moved into the country. Gives everyone some space.

However, I was at a landscape installation job this year and each morning while I was there some young lad would fire up his highly modified diesel. Super loud turbo, deafening exhaust, tons of black smoke and a heavy foot. This is everyday with an extended warmup.....when it's 60 degrees?

This is a newer development which is situated in a wooded area. Many people purchased their homes for the quiet setting and all of them were complaining about this person. I would be too, it was excessive. Not everyone thinks all that stuff is awesome and get rather annoyed by it. Same as some super loud gas sports car/truck.

Now, if you don't want to be bothered you need to buy a lot of land so no one is around you. But if you own one of these non stock vehicles YOU also need to respect your neighbors. It goes both ways.

 

Honestly, idling is kind of pointless...it's as pointless as those kids are ignorant (kids with diesels or fart cans or ____ fill in the blank). Grandpa your way around until it's warm, or PLUG IT IN at night. Only time I idle for warmup is if I have to pull trailer right after a stone cold fire up. This would be more for an automagic tranny than trying to save anything else.

Couldn't agree more, people with obnoxious stuff need to go out of their way not to **** off neighbors. All of my stuff is loud, I grandpa down my street whether it's 5am, noon, or midnight....warm or cold drivetrain.

 

This is what happens when folks are taught/told it's all about them. Me mentality, dumbing down of Americans. It's a new world we're told to live in.

 

Very true. The idea of needing to idle an engine to warm up has been a myth ever since fuel injection came about, but lots of folks are convinced otherwise.

Lots of folks out there with "LOOK at ME!!!!" trucks that do everything they can for that attention. It's frustrating, I don't want to hear their engine. Just moved to the midwest a few months ago, and it seems to be much more common out here. I hear more obnoxious exhausts on gas trucks though, probably because there are a lot more of them.