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Old Dec 23, 2015 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by MisterCMK
You can twist the numbers all you want, but the fact is, all else equal, diesels will resale higher than a gas truck.
The better argument IF the numbers work would be that " diesels depreciate less than similarly optioned gas truck "
 
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Old Dec 23, 2015 | 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by ATP Pilot
I'm not going to read 878 pages, I'll jump to the end and say that I am happy with my choice.
That about sums up the entire gas vs. diesel issue I've always been happy with my choices, both gas AND diesel.
 
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Old Dec 23, 2015 | 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by MDSuperDuty
But would the gas truck get that much better mileage? How much would it increase the price of the motor? If it just creates a lot of oomph at the expense of fuel not sure it would be that great. Trust me, I'm used to horrible mpg with my V10 so I wouldn't care much and would enjoy the extra power.

Buuuuuutttt.........

People spend thousands to save nickels. Especially if they justify purchasing something on mpg. For example, a low mileage diesel owner. Sure they may need the truck to pull the monster trailer but to argue they got the diesel for better mpg is just laughable. Reason? Because the acquisition cost was much higher and the low miles don't make up that cost (especially now that gas is at the $2.00 mark +/-). There are those, I bet a bunch, who likely put 5,000 or less per year. Without a doubt it does get better mpg, I'm not arguing that at all and for the high mileage drivers the cost will likely recover itself in fuel savings. I'd rather they just say they enjoy the power of the diesel while towing and prefer it to gas. Cool, THAT makes sense! No need to justify the purchase to me. I just don't think those high mileage, in a short timeframe, types would switch to gas.
The cool thing about my truck is that I add fuel when it needs it. I didn't buy an 8,500 pound pulling machine to get good mileage, I bought it to pull stuff. Gas or diesel, the SuperDuty is second to none. I don't pass V-10's on the road, but I pass alot of duracraps and cumboys..
 
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Old Dec 23, 2015 | 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by The Kaz
The better argument IF the numbers work would be that " diesels depreciate less than similarly optioned gas truck "
While at the same time my 10K in the bank appreciates faster so at the end of 4 years I'll have more money in the bank to buy my next one.
 
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Old Dec 23, 2015 | 04:17 PM
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I like gas because it's more....................refined.
 
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Old Dec 23, 2015 | 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by SDElwood
The cool thing about my truck is that I add fuel when it needs it. I didn't buy an 8,500 pound pulling machine to get good mileage, I bought it to pull stuff. Gas or diesel, the SuperDuty is second to none. I don't pass V-10's on the road, but I pass alot of duracraps and cumboys..
After we bought our 2013 6.2 I was hand calculating our mileage pulling and the wife said who cares it is what it is, we didn't buy it for mileage we bought it to pull our trailer. And she's right

Denny
 
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Old Dec 23, 2015 | 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by rvpuller
After we bought our 2013 6.2 I was hand calculating our mileage pulling and the wife said who cares it is what it is, we didn't buy it for mileage we bought it to pull our trailer. And she's right

Denny
This is what happen when I purchased the wifes Excursion, she said the same thing " why are you calculating you know we bought it because we needed to pull the tt around" she was right thats way before I had the Mule
 
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Old Dec 23, 2015 | 08:04 PM
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I agree 100% with all of you about whatever choice you make for what you like and what your needs are. Seriously. Hopefully Santa 🎅🏻 can bring some truck gifts for all of us who want some truck stuff!!

Buuuuuuut

This thread is titled Gas vs PSD and as long as names are not called it can be a fun debate.
 
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Old Dec 23, 2015 | 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by MDSuperDuty
I agree 100% with all of you about whatever choice you make for what you like and what your needs are. Seriously. Hopefully Santa 🎅🏻 can bring some truck gifts for all of us who want some truck stuff!!

Buuuuuuut

This thread is titled Gas vs PSD and as long as namemss are not called it can be a fun debate.
I need some truck stuff but for my F150 not my SD but its 2K miles from here so it will have to wait until may .

It's getting close to Christmas so everyone must be playing nice

Denny
 
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Old Dec 23, 2015 | 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by MisterCMK
How is assuming somebody is going to take the price difference between a gas and diesel and put it into an account earning 9% returns realistic?
they will just waste that with the extra money they save with less mpg with a gas truck.
 
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Old Dec 24, 2015 | 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Skip1970
they will just waste that with the extra money they save with less mpg with a gas truck.
Damn right we will money is there to be spent. You see it gets too heavy for the bank to handle so I like to relieve them so their vaults aren't over capacity. I can make up for it anytime though I have a store nearby that sells +5hp stickers and +5ft/lb ones as well so if I add 90 of the ft/lb ones then I can say I have a powerstroke too. That's only a 270$ upcharge as compared to the diesel.
 
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Old Dec 24, 2015 | 10:14 AM
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Gasoline has always been mediocre. It works ok to get stuff by but anything really cool needs diesel/kerosene/jet fuel to get the job done.
 
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Old Dec 24, 2015 | 10:20 AM
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The following is my own opinion, and mine alone. I make no claims about power, return on investment, or any other claims to a gasser's superiority.

You couldn't pay me enough to buy a diesel. I drove diesel trucks back in my 20's doing deliveries. And then worked on them myself, doing maintenance, repairs, and even an entire engine replacement (more on that later).

Never again. I understand the allure. The power, especially when tuned, is incredible. The longevity (when the dice are rolled every time you start the darn thing) is better than gassers - for the most part.

However, you can't pay me enough to own a diesel. OK, you could, but I'd leave it parked and drive my V10 anyway

One truck I was driving sucked up what amounts to maybe a drop of water in a heavy downpour at highway speed. Cracked all four pistons and even two of the cylinder liners. While that can happen on a gasser (requiring more water to do the job, actually), the cost was ASTRONOMICAL. It put a big dent in the profits (or added to the losses more likely) of the business I was working for at the time.

I'm willing to forgo some of the "awesome torque" and the (especially these days) "high longevity" to not have to deal with all the things a diesel requires me to maintain. And the risk, when not under warranty, of an engine problem.

I deeply respect all of Ford's powerplants, including the diesels, but you won't see me buying one. Ever.

Doesn't matter if it makes monetary sense, doesn't matter that it can theoretically pull more, doesn't matter if I can tune it and make it go 0-60 in 5 seconds.

I feel the way I do for my reasons, everyone else feels the way they do for theirs.

Making fun of or denigrating others for their choice does nothing to further this forum. Everyone has their own needs and opinions and likes. I like my V10 :P
 
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Old Dec 24, 2015 | 11:35 AM
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Gasser is enough, and my wife hates diesel stink. On the highway, if a diesel is near us, She makes me either pass them or let them get way ahead. My neighbor had a diesel and the winter warm - ups used to stink up my whole house until I called the cops. <br/>
 
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Old Dec 24, 2015 | 11:36 AM
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I have owned both 6.0 and V10 in 2004 CC LB 4x4 Platforms. Loved them both for toting my tractors.Great to pull with. I do like the 6.0 more. JMO.
 
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