Gas vs PSD
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The reason I stayed away from the 6.0 is that you HAVE to do the "Bullet Proofing" to make it reliable: Bulletproof EGR or a Delete, Head Gaskets and Studs, and or New oil cooler if your delta was bad.
With those things done, they will last forever. Just a matter of whether you want to spend the money to do them. THEN throw in some tunes and mods and the thing is an animal.
Personally, i cna justify the $$$ for the "Bullet Proofing" to make it reliable, and I would just assume to stay out of the EPA crap.
Thats why I have the 7.3.
With those things done, they will last forever. Just a matter of whether you want to spend the money to do them. THEN throw in some tunes and mods and the thing is an animal.
Personally, i cna justify the $$$ for the "Bullet Proofing" to make it reliable, and I would just assume to stay out of the EPA crap.
Thats why I have the 7.3.
This is just flat out not true. I have an 06' at my shop with a 100k on it with nothing more than minor issues during it's service and it hauls heavy. Way heavier than the average owner will and on a regular basis.
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My point isn't the temps themselfs. Remember I let out of it when the alert on the eot sounded at 215•. Would have it gotten hotter? I dunno.
My point is that the temps did go up. I don't want to be stuck in 2nd in some narly hills pulling a load. I'll take my psd w/ its low end gobs of tq and a gear or 2 higher.
My point is that the temps did go up. I don't want to be stuck in 2nd in some narly hills pulling a load. I'll take my psd w/ its low end gobs of tq and a gear or 2 higher.
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06 and 07? Just a guess.
Aight yall I made some more runs but I was empty and I shifted into 2nd. This test was just to see how long I could stand to be on the pedal without an upshift. Engine was turning 4k top speed was 45 mph. I held this up until my insight alerted me that my eot had reached 215•. I had been paying attention to the rpm and speed. Ect got to 205. Which took all of maybe a minute. So its not true that a diesel's engine fluids isn't going to run a fever if reved out and tranny not pulling. I just wasn't holding long enough. Just goes to show that the sucky gauges on our trucks doesn't show the whole picture.
This has me wondering how any of the other powertrains are pulling hills @ 55+ in 2nd gear.
Aight yall I made some more runs but I was empty and I shifted into 2nd. This test was just to see how long I could stand to be on the pedal without an upshift. Engine was turning 4k top speed was 45 mph. I held this up until my insight alerted me that my eot had reached 215•. I had been paying attention to the rpm and speed. Ect got to 205. Which took all of maybe a minute. So its not true that a diesel's engine fluids isn't going to run a fever if reved out and tranny not pulling. I just wasn't holding long enough. Just goes to show that the sucky gauges on our trucks doesn't show the whole picture.
This has me wondering how any of the other powertrains are pulling hills @ 55+ in 2nd gear.
At higher RPM temps would have only gotten hotter like you said above. On our 7.3's and 6.ohs the oil is getting heated more than normal though b/c of the HEUI(not sure what you drive). At one point during the run above I switched programs that runs less ICP than the others. Before switching tunes, cruising ICP was ~2500psi. After switching tunes, ICP dropped to about stock level which was ~1800psi. EOT dropped about 3* in less than a minute. So, ICP heats the oil up pretty significantly.. Just thought I'd throw that out there.
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The other day I was cruising down the Hwy in the heat of the day(about 103*) at a speed which shall not be mentioned. Engine was turning 2900RPM and I have 3.55 gears. I was unloaded, and again cruising for probably 20-30 miles this way. EOT was already 200* when I started this journey. EOT got up to 215*, but would not go over that. ECT settled at 214* and stayed there the whole time. Once I got to a point where the speed limit dropped to 45 and I had to slow down, the EOT dropped down to 203*(thermostat temp) and ECT to ~200* in about a minute.. So, this would back up your statement. If run hard enough a diesel can run pretty hot. Since mine is a 7.3L, it obviously won't like turning 4k RPM in stock form.. At higher RPM temps would have only gotten hotter like you said above.
On our 7.3's and 6.ohs the oil is getting heated more than normal though b/c of the HEUI(not sure what you drive). At one point during the run above I switched programs that runs less ICP than the others. Before switching tunes, cruising ICP was ~2500psi. After switching tunes, ICP dropped to about stock level which was ~1800psi. EOT dropped about 3* in less than a minute. So, ICP heats the oil up pretty significantly.. Just thought I'd throw that out there.
At higher RPM temps would have only gotten hotter like you said above. On our 7.3's and 6.ohs the oil is getting heated more than normal though b/c of the HEUI(not sure what you drive). At one point during the run above I switched programs that runs less ICP than the others. Before switching tunes, cruising ICP was ~2500psi. After switching tunes, ICP dropped to about stock level which was ~1800psi. EOT dropped about 3* in less than a minute. So, ICP heats the oil up pretty significantly.. Just thought I'd throw that out there.
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I thought 100K for a diesel was a walk in the park?
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Good to see the V10 Bible Thumpers are still out and about. My post was a simple responce to someones claim that a 6.0 HAS to have thousands of $s of work done before it can be used. It has nothing to do with the long since ridiculous V10 vs Every Other Engine on the Planet debate.
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Good to see the V10 Bible Thumpers are still out and about. My post was a simple responce to someones claim that a 6.0 HAS to have thousands of $s of work done before it can be used. It has nothing to do with the long since ridiculous V10 vs Every Other Engine on the Planet debate.
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Good to see the V10 Bible Thumpers are still out and about. My post was a simple responce to someones claim that a 6.0 HAS to have thousands of $s of work done before it can be used. It has nothing to do with the long since ridiculous V10 vs Every Other Engine on the Planet debate.
Don;t get me wrong, the 6.0 is a GREAT engine after it's been bullitproofed. Just too much risk if it hasn't.
Flamesuit on.
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Please.....we out perform, out hual, out tow, out last and just plain run circles around the V-10! I'm sure it will make a fine automotive engine, I'd love to put something like that in my cobra replica! But since I wanted it to go fast I had to go with a stroked Cleveland well that and a 24 valve would have been too hard too see over! Maybe I'll put one in my little '66 coupe if I can't find that 8 valve I've been looking for to put in it, they are very tempting because people seem to be giving the danm things away! Maybe marine use.....
well that and a 24 valve would have been too hard too see over! Maybe I'll put one in my little '66 coupe if I can't find that 8 valve I've been looking for to put in it, they are very tempting because people seem to be giving the danm things away! Maybe marine use.....
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However, it seems my wants mean I'm stupid. Or something.
Oh now! I didn't mean to hurt your feelings,
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