No argument there. Ford missed a great opportunity.

 

I do maintanace and mechanic work in our fleet, bar none gassers are the ideal engine for fleet use, cheaper everything, less problems etc. The diesels are $$$ to maintain and are only good for one thing TOWING!!!!! We got a 16 Ram with the Cummins to do the towing and heavy hauling needs. The last 5 7.3 and the last stupid 6.doh-(more problems that I care to mention) have held over 350k with minor non mechanical failures but they do get abused hard and are always exceding its carring and towing capacity.

 

This guy's 2017 6.7 made it a few hundred miles before it blew:
Oil Pump goes BOOOOM.... - Ford Powerstroke Diesel Forum

 

Houston we have a problem

That is a cool looking bellhousing though reminds me of the old torqueflite 727s

 

Tom, you should really be aware that DEF (HPFP) and regens (sensors, valves) are both part of the emissions system. As is the EGR. If all this stuff were deleted, both fuel efficiency and reliability would go from really good to through the roof. Bad fuel is almost never to blame.

PS I wonder how long the 6.2L will run without oil

 

How exactly do these two systems kill an HPFP?

 

Every post I have read, bad fuel was always to blame.

 

It was not bad fuel to blame for the HPFP failure on my '15! It just failed! That particular truck had a glitch that no one seemed to be able to identify, which I believe led to the failure!
did cover it under warranty!!! But, I traded the truck, so I have no idea whether the original glitch was resolved by replacing the fuel system, or if it continued to raise its ugly head.....no longer my problem.
Because of the complexity of all the computerized systems on these new truck, the potential for problems has risen, but there are getting to be a lot of 6.7's out there with an excess of 200,000 trouble free miles on them. But I will agree that the 6.2 is a very reliable platform, and would be very impressive if made an "EGO-BOOST" version of it!!! 😎😎😎

 

Here is a (problem free) gasser.

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Doing some of that "cheap" maintenance, you know, just changing plugs.

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Exhaust studs? Yeah thats an easy fix too when you have the motor out for spark plugs.

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Not to mention overhauls, everyone likes to cite some guy who has a ton of miles on his gasser, but overhauls are a fact of life for most high mile gas trucks. I have over a million miles on gasser trucks (combined between 5-6 vehicles), and I've rebuilt every one, my f2 is on its 3rd engine, 400k on the clock.

 

Why laugh at a deserved reputation?

Because we all think they are perfect?

Everything mechanical can and will fail. I haven't seen anyone on any forum realistically claim the 7.3 has no faults.

Inheriting a reputation doesn't mean it isn't a deserved reputation. It doesn't matter how it starts, what matters is if the rep is true.

Stewart

 

Why would you remove the engine for a spark plug blow out? And exhaust studs also break on the 7.3 I know I own one that has a broken one

 

Operator error putting DEF in the fuel tank blows up HPFP. This can't be a real question of yours.

 

Driver error is one scenario, but you really think that's where the majority come from? What's caused all the 6.4L HPFP failures?

Overhauls are a fact of life for diesel engines as well. You seem to read about a lot more failures under 200,000 miles in the diesel forums than you do gas. Modern gas engines can go a long time as well, someone in the '17 Super Duty forum just commented on their V10-powered work truck still going strong with over 7,000 engine hours and 400,000 miles. I don't think this is an advantage for diesel engines anymore...they've gotten less reliable over time as gas engines have done the opposite.