Gas vs PSD
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Well.. the topic was on this forum in this section. I would believe everybody posting in this section would read it.
Now I don't think moderators driving V10 had anything to do with the topic being deleted, but this is Ford sponsored forum. Don't think Ford appreciate such news.
Can you say "poof" ?
Now I don't think moderators driving V10 had anything to do with the topic being deleted, but this is Ford sponsored forum. Don't think Ford appreciate such news.
Can you say "poof" ?
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Ford doesn't sponsor this forum... and outside of spam there probably has been less than a dozen threads deleted in the Super Duty section in the past year. None of them with such content.
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Well actually NO. First that ain't a super duty (you know my super duty is a diesel) but the moral of THAT story is Built ford tough
That was a 65mph tbone crash with a semi tractor trailer And I walked away with 2 broken ribs AND let myself out of the vehicle.
No the moral actually was
about what happens to your safety stuff like belt cutters in an accident bad enough to need them. Or in other words it doesn't matter gasser or diesel as long as it's a ford.
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That was a 65mph tbone crash with a semi tractor trailer And I walked away with 2 broken ribs AND let myself out of the vehicle.
No the moral actually was about what happens to your safety stuff like belt cutters in an accident bad enough to need them. Or in other words it doesn't matter gasser or diesel as long as it's a Ford.
No the moral actually was
about what happens to your safety stuff like belt cutters in an accident bad enough to need them. Or in other words it doesn't matter gasser or diesel as long as it's a Ford.Seriously, I'm glad you could walk (Limp?) away from that very hard hit, Rob.
OK, hijack over. Back to the endless bench racing!
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From the first post..
So I guess youre going to have to get a PSD now, assuming youre a man of your word
Or get an F550!
So I guess youre going to have to get a PSD now, assuming youre a man of your word
Or get an F550!
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Where is these basic directions? I've read a couple manuals and neither said anything special about the sparkplug install. Surely you don't think that anywhere near a large fraction of 6.8l owners are read stuff here or looked past the manual to change their sparkpkugs.
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But the key thing is "torque wrench". And, using some anti-seize (which is also not in the directions, although USED to be on the Motorcraft website, can't find it anymore).
The threads in the head seem to be a pretty rough cut. Getting the plug in their correctly involves at least some sort of lubrication so you can actually get the plug wedged into the taper good enough to keep it there.
On top of that are mechanics who think they can do it by "feel" and are probably not getting even close to the proper torque.
Well actually NO. First that ain't a super duty (you know my super duty is a diesel) but the moral of THAT story is Built ford tough
...
No the moral actually was about what happens to your safety stuff like belt cutters in an accident bad enough to need them. Or in other words it doesn't matter gasser or diesel as long as it's a ford.
...
No the moral actually was
about what happens to your safety stuff like belt cutters in an accident bad enough to need them. Or in other words it doesn't matter gasser or diesel as long as it's a ford.
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WAIT! Ford used a tapered seat plug on aluminum heads? I never knew that and if it is true that is the stupidest thing ford has done to date! I was trying to figure out in my head why ford is the only ones having plug issues in aluminum heads but if this is true it explains EVERYTHING! Taper seat spark plugs are 1920 technology and are complete junk! They always loosen up and if they don't loosen up they are seized in. Can someone else with a V10 confirm this?
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I would disagree with taper-seat plugs in aluminum being "junk" - they just have to be dealt with correctly.
Matter of fact, plenty of engines used taper seat plugs. Even the ones with crush-washer type gaskets in aluminum still have problems, probably around the same rate of failure. You just never hear about it.
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My V10 has tapered seat plugs, just bought 11 of them for an upcoming plug change.(Bought a spare)
http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/moreinfo.php?pk=949950
Taper seat spark plugs in aluminum and cast iron heads are super common. Ford and a LOT of other manufacturers use taper seat plugs. Dodges "Hemi" engines use a taper seat plug design which is almost identical to Fords post 08' spark plugs in the modulars. Every late model vehicle with aluminum heads I changed plugs in used the tapered seat plug design from I4 thru V10. Never ever had an issue with loose plugs or spit plugs. The washer type plugs are common on small engines.
http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/moreinfo.php?pk=949950
Taper seat spark plugs in aluminum and cast iron heads are super common. Ford and a LOT of other manufacturers use taper seat plugs. Dodges "Hemi" engines use a taper seat plug design which is almost identical to Fords post 08' spark plugs in the modulars. Every late model vehicle with aluminum heads I changed plugs in used the tapered seat plug design from I4 thru V10. Never ever had an issue with loose plugs or spit plugs. The washer type plugs are common on small engines.
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I've been thinking about this since I last posted, and I can't recall ANY modern-day aluminum-head engines that use crush-washers.
Maybe GM
After a while, crush-washers "gall" the head surface where they seal, and my machinist just LOVED having to re-machine that little flat area clean again
Maybe GM
After a while, crush-washers "gall" the head surface where they seal, and my machinist just LOVED having to re-machine that little flat area clean again
