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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 04:10 PM
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There is a 1/8 mile like that here too, the slow down area is very short, its gravel and it is curved. At the end of it is a river.

What time are you hoping for with the 427?
 
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by bill11012
There is a 1/8 mile like that here too, the slow down area is very short, its gravel and it is curved. At the end of it is a river.

What time are you hoping for with the 427?
I could get a better time from my 351, but I have it set up for shorter races(4.56 gears). It's at 100 mph in the 1/8th and is wound out not too far past that. They didn't start letting us run at Bristol until about 8-10 years ago, so I did the majority of my running where I shouldn't have It's hard to find a good, flat 1/4 mile road with no traffic or cops around here, so most of our street races were around an 1/8th.

The 427(351) is going to be a street car too, but I'm hoping to get about 700 rwhp out of it. It will be a while before I get it finished though. All of them(86 gt, 91 lx, 91 gt, 83 lx) have been sitting in the garage for almost 4 years because I have been too busy to work on them. I got married, started building a house, got divorced, bought a second house to fix up, got remarried, now my wife wants to sell both houses and build another one, etc, so I haven't had time to fool around with them much.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by phillips91
The finish line at Bristol is something like 75-100 feet higher than the starting line.lol
Run it backwards.

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It will be a while before I get it finished though. All of them(86 gt, 91 lx, 91 gt, 83 lx) have been sitting in the garage for almost 4 years because I have been too busy to work on them. I got married, started building a house, got divorced, bought a second house to fix up, got remarried, now my wife wants to sell both houses and build another one, etc, so I haven't had time to fool around with them much.
Your busy. So you have not raced them in 4 years?

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The 427(351) is going to be a street car too, but I'm hoping to get about 700 rwhp out of it.
Sounds fun.


We should get back on topic.
Are you aware that my V10 will out pull your PSD?
 
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 08:29 PM
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This is some funny chit that's going on here!

Huuumm...Is that a V10 behind me? Nawww no way!
 
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Old Mar 10, 2010 | 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by tex25025
That's going to be moot because your only going to be able to get V10s in the 450 and 550 chassis cab configuration from 2011 models on. Atleast in the near term.



I don't think even the people that want a superduty just because they want one will go for that model configuration just on a whim.



Although to my knowledge there isn't any new regulation coming for gas engines as far as emmissions goes(atleast from what I know at this point), only regulation that might be heading this way would be mpg improvements, but I kinda doubt that due to the fact that they usually don't give epa mpg averages on our trucks as it is now.


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What? Do the FTE V10 lovers know that, cause it sure dont seem like they do?


Originally Posted by tex25025
I know because I was actually going to order one in a 250, but I found out from reliable sources that it's no longer going to be available in the "lower" models and only in that configuration in the 450 and 550 models.



I just double checked what info I have on it.



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Old Mar 10, 2010 | 06:13 PM
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That's a long quote to ask if anyone knows that the V10 will only be available in the chassis cabs. This thread has had about 10 revolutions of the same arguments and I think it has been discussed in every one.
 
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Old Mar 10, 2010 | 06:36 PM
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Yeah, I kinda figured that, but I did it anyway. Thanks brain!!!!!!

Sorry.
 
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Old Mar 10, 2010 | 08:42 PM
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Wow, can't believe this thread is still going. It's like the Energizer Bunny.
 
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Old Mar 12, 2010 | 10:44 AM
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It is still going because PowerStrokes are over 20 years old technology and their comparison to new technology gasers is questionable.
Would you take 10 years old cdi to compare to gaser -there is no comparison.
6 cylinder cdi diesels beats 8 cylinder gaser in the same car models. When it comes to high speed acceleration -diesel will blow off the door on gaser.
 
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Old Mar 12, 2010 | 11:05 AM
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The power stroke 7.3 came out in 94.
The 4.6 came out in 91.
Ford did not make it a V10 until 97 but the motor family is older.
 
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Old Mar 12, 2010 | 12:22 PM
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Yep, It's a pretty fair comparison, technology wise. Both engines are developed within the same half decade. People need to remember that there is no similarities to the '83 - 94 6.9L - 7.3L engine family when talking about the PSD. Totally different engines.
 
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Old Mar 12, 2010 | 06:20 PM
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The problem is that if you look one any number of sites that has info about them, you will read that the 7.3 IDI recieved a turbo and DI for 94 to make it a Power stroke.

People see that and thats what they think, even though its wrong and the 7.3 IDI and 7.3 stroke have close to nothing in common.
 
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Old Mar 12, 2010 | 06:38 PM
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It is not that easy to determinate the real age of the engine design.
I do own 1973 conversion with Detroit diesel. Even those engines were popular in 1970's and 1980's I tracked the block design back to 1930's.
Than technology makes sudden steps in old design. Most must know that the famous Chevy 454 engine is different animal when fuel injector and different with carburetor. For several reasons gasoline engines are getting updates almost every year, while diesels need about a decade for bigger step.
In diesels one big step was installing MAF with computer controlled injection pump and the other was common rail with electronic injection.
PS is very strange animal. It doesn't fit anywhere in natural technological progress
 
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Old Mar 12, 2010 | 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Kajtek1
It is still going because PowerStrokes are over 20 years old technology and their comparison to new technology gasers is questionable.
Would you take 10 years old cdi to compare to gaser -there is no comparison.
6 cylinder cdi diesels beats 8 cylinder gaser in the same car models. When it comes to high speed acceleration -diesel will blow off the door on gaser.
Wow. Which PSD are you referring to that's over 20 years old? Sure the name is 20 years old, but anyone will tell you that's like saying "V8 Ford's have been around since 1932". Technically it's true, but it's kinda ignorant to compare the '32 flathead with today's modern engines. But I do agree that it's unfair to compare diesels to "gassers" (learn to spell) for reliablity's sake. I was thinking this same thing yesterday when I watched a guy working on his mid-90's PSD that was refusing all attempts to start. He's a nice guy and while I wouldn't dream of kicking a man when he's down, he knew full well it was gonna get expensive and was questioning even fixing it or parting the truck out. There's simply no such thing as cheap diesel parts and that applies triple to new diesels. Ask the guy on another thread that was quoted $24,000 to fix his one year old PSD how infallible ANY engine is. But even if the worst happened to my V10 I could replace the engine myself, in my garage, probably for $5,000 or less. Can't say that for any diesel owner unless he has a lift to get the cab off and a big bank account to foot the bill. Of course that is highly unlikely because as pretty much anyone will tell you, 5.4's and V10's are just about bullet-proof and aside from a couple minor things have been since they were introduced, which is about three generations of PSD ago.
Also, diesel vehicles do make huge power, but mostly they make torque. They make it due to one thing and one thing only, they are turbocharged. End of story. Period. Yes they get great mileage (well, maybe not the new ones) but so did my Mazda. It's all about choices when you think about it. I choose to drive a V10 and you apparently like the diesels. Keep your truck for another 10 years and tell me how much you love it...
 
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Old Mar 12, 2010 | 06:48 PM
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Keep your truck for another 10 years and tell me how much you love it...
Wanting or not, I might have to do it. Politicians are not allowing new technology in this country.
I fell in love with cdi technology exactly 10 years ago when FRENCH rented me FORD Focus with 1.9l cdi engine. That powerplant could be lifted by single person, yet powered the station wagon above 135 mph.
The Mercedes cdi engines pump 209 hp from 3 liters. Still engine that can be lifted by couple of guys.
 
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