Gas vs PSD
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Yeah, I type fast when I'm bored! 
This particular trip was to rescue my stranded wife in the POS Blazer towing the motorcycle back "home" to Watertown, NY when I was still in the Army. Picked up the disabled Blazer near Streetsboro, OH and took I-271 to I-90 across to Syracuse, then up I-81 to Watertown. Not much in the way of hills, but I wouldn't hesitate to tow with that setup anywhere in the US. Might struggle in Colorado though...
But I didn't buy my F250 for "easy" stuff like that. I was afraid my white trailer would slowly destroy my F150.
The F250 purchase was also a convenient way to get rid of the Blazer. The most useful thing that Chevy ever did for me was pay the sales tax!
This particular trip was to rescue my stranded wife in the POS Blazer towing the motorcycle back "home" to Watertown, NY when I was still in the Army. Picked up the disabled Blazer near Streetsboro, OH and took I-271 to I-90 across to Syracuse, then up I-81 to Watertown. Not much in the way of hills, but I wouldn't hesitate to tow with that setup anywhere in the US. Might struggle in Colorado though...
But I didn't buy my F250 for "easy" stuff like that. I was afraid my white trailer would slowly destroy my F150.
The F250 purchase was also a convenient way to get rid of the Blazer. The most useful thing that Chevy ever did for me was pay the sales tax!
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And Bill, your 18 foot enclosed trailer only weighs 2,000 lbs? The one in my pic weighs 3,500 and is only 6 feet longer! Either way, was most of your towing on the highway or around town? The 5.4 would have a pretty easy time with that at lower speeds, but high speeds with that much wind resistance would tax it pretty good.
The first day I used there truck ( 5.4) and the second day I used the V10.
It had 2 3.5K axles and a plate that read " max load, 5,000lbs" so I took that to mean 2,000 was the empty weight.
It was some city and some highway.
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I'm not sure if this has been brought up yet;
These engines are in completely different classes.
The diesels are intended for a much higher duty rating than the gas engines.
I thought that it was something like 45% duty cycle for the diesel options in fords, and 25% duty rating for the gas engines?
At the end of the day, even if the gas engine pulled harder and faster than even an old 7.3, the 7.3 is still capable of putting out more power for longer and lasting a long time. This is what diesels are made for.
All that said, most diesel pickup owners might possibly own them because they enjoy the mileage, which even on the 6.4 can flirt with 20 with the enviro-crap hacked out....and some just like diesels and thats it.
If I did'nt work on a drilling rig part time, and fill up for free all the time, i'd probably still have my 7.3 because I don't see gas trucks with my miles running as nice, usually it's kinda getting time for a rebuild at 300,000km's.
These engines are in completely different classes.
The diesels are intended for a much higher duty rating than the gas engines.
I thought that it was something like 45% duty cycle for the diesel options in fords, and 25% duty rating for the gas engines?
At the end of the day, even if the gas engine pulled harder and faster than even an old 7.3, the 7.3 is still capable of putting out more power for longer and lasting a long time. This is what diesels are made for.
All that said, most diesel pickup owners might possibly own them because they enjoy the mileage, which even on the 6.4 can flirt with 20 with the enviro-crap hacked out....and some just like diesels and thats it.
If I did'nt work on a drilling rig part time, and fill up for free all the time, i'd probably still have my 7.3 because I don't see gas trucks with my miles running as nice, usually it's kinda getting time for a rebuild at 300,000km's.
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Jeeze, this still going on ?
Here's something for you V-10 owners to make it sound as good as a turbo deezle when boosted !!!
YouTube - Shonky and the SoundRacer V8
Here's something for you V-10 owners to make it sound as good as a turbo deezle when boosted !!!
YouTube - Shonky and the SoundRacer V8
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Funny thing is my bro-in-law has a NICE 40 ft deezle pusher and he chose a Kia sportage to tow behind it !!!!
HAVE to get him one of those
HAVE to get him one of those
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Here's a good website for that kind of info. Highest, Lowest, and Mean Elevations in the United States — Infoplease.com
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Here's a good website for that kind of info. Highest, Lowest, and Mean Elevations in the United States — Infoplease.com
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Are you kidding? In 230 pages there have been threats, insults, half-truths and ouright lies spread from one end to the other. To my knowledge not one opinion has been swayed. It's a guy thing, we all know that we are right and we have the very best truck on our driveway, anyone else is just fooling themselves and we as individuals cannot understand why on earth anyone would buy a (fill in the truck you don't own here).
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That pretty much sums up what I already suspected. I've flown over the country from coast to coast and once you get past about Utah, there's not much to see out the window of the plane as far as hills. Along the coast here you not only have to deal with hills, but hills with sharp turns and no run at the bottom. That's why I love my V10 compared to our Suburban. The 5.7 Chevy actually did a respectable job at towing our trailer, but with the SD, there's no need for dramatic runs at a hill only to crest the top at 40 mph.
I know what you mean though. I had a debate with a guy a while back about how my 5.4 towed 6k lbs in hilly areas(I was talking smoky mountains in TN with 5,000' climbs, sharp turns, etc). He told me I was full of it, his towed great with that same weight and only struggled on two or three hills on a 950 mile trip. Turns out his hilly area was down I-95, 75 mph, and the highest point was 125 feet and the lowest was something like 75 feet. I have a steeper climb than that just getting out of my driveway lol.