Gas vs PSD
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i've priced injectors for my 6.8 and they were $80 a piece roughly. my plugs cost $12.99 each and as far a coil packs i can get them from summit and they are accel and they are $35 each. now when i priced out for a deisel as opposed to the v-10 my savings in fuel swayed me to the v-10 and thats when gas was $3.50 a gallon and deisel was $4. any way i like both trucks. they both have their issues and advantages. so for me as long as my problem is circled and has the blue oval on it. i'll buy it over the competition. i'ld rather push my ford through death valley than drive a chevy!
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Modular motor junkie
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You get the same fuel mileage I do?
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I can go to any junk yard and get a set of injectors for my V10 for $50 bucks.
Just think of all the wrecked cop cars, worn out explorers and trucks with the 4.6/5.4 a normal sized junk yard has!
50,000/21 mpg's=2,381 gallons of fuel per year for me. 50,000/12 mpgs=4,167 gallons of gas if I had a v10. 2,381 gallons of diesel x $2.64=$6,286 per year in fuel costs for my 7.3. 4,167 gallons of gas x $2.48=$10,334 per year in fuel costs for the v10. Over the 10 year life(500,000 miles) I will spend $62,860 in fuel for my 7.3. If I had a v10 I would spend $103,340 in gas. It's been a while since I had a math class, but to me it doesn't add up to spend $41,000 extra in gas to save $600 on a set of injectors. I could buy a new truck with your added fuel costs alone.
If your going to use highway MPGs for the 7.3 I think you should for the V10 too. I can get 15-16 highway.
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How much does one 7.3 Injector cost again? What about that High Pressure Oil Pump too? CPS? UVC Harness? How about that glowplug controller that seems to love to burnout on California 7.3s? Those intake and boost tubes/boots that get oil impregnated and fail? Seen quite a few fried IDMs as well.
Whats going to happen once the parts supply for 7.3s starts to dry up?
Whats going to happen once the parts supply for 7.3s starts to dry up?
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Perhaps specific V10 parts, like heads. But they share many common parts with the other Modulars, and at a minimum I'd say there are 10 times as many modular engines as 7.3s out there.
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I'll substitute your 15 mpg's in place of the 12 and run the numbers again though. Same 50,000 miles of driving per year over 10 years. 2,381 gallons of diesel x $2.64=$6,286 per year in fuel costs for my 7.3. 3,333 gallons of gas x $2.48=$8,266 per year in fuel costs for the v10. Still a savings of $1,980 per year or $19,800 over 10 years.
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Most of the guys I have seen talk about mpg's on their v10 have put it around 9-10 mpg's city (like Bucci mentioned in his previous post) and I'm lucky to get 15 mpg's highway from my 5.4, so I figured 12 was a good number for it.
I'll substitute your 15 mpg's in place of the 12 and run the numbers again though. Same 50,000 miles of driving per year over 10 years. 2,381 gallons of diesel x $2.64=$6,286 per year in fuel costs for my 7.3. 3,333 gallons of gas x $2.48=$8,266 per year in fuel costs for the v10. Still a savings of $1,980 per year or $19,800 over 10 years.
I'll substitute your 15 mpg's in place of the 12 and run the numbers again though. Same 50,000 miles of driving per year over 10 years. 2,381 gallons of diesel x $2.64=$6,286 per year in fuel costs for my 7.3. 3,333 gallons of gas x $2.48=$8,266 per year in fuel costs for the v10. Still a savings of $1,980 per year or $19,800 over 10 years.
I fired up our 2V Excursion yesterday morning when it was -9 here in Keystone, Colorado and it didn't complain one bit-fired up and was running smooth as it always is in less than 3 seconds.
JL
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Do you plug up that diesel at night so it'll start when it's cold out? If so, you need to calculate the electrical cost in KwH and add that to your operating costs too. That electrical cord plugged into the wall doesn't flow free electricity.
I fired up our 2V Excursion yesterday morning when it was -9 here in Keystone, Colorado and it didn't complain one bit-fired up and was running smooth as it always is in less than 3 seconds.
JL
I fired up our 2V Excursion yesterday morning when it was -9 here in Keystone, Colorado and it didn't complain one bit-fired up and was running smooth as it always is in less than 3 seconds.
JL
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My last diesel (a 6.0) went through $18,000 in repairs between 30,000 miles and 85,000 miles alone. While my 145,000 mile V10 truck went through a coil pack and a cat to pass emissions during the same period (about $225 total). And i never had to replace the Turbo yet, I'm sure that was around the corner. I had to bail out before the warranty was up, to make sure it didn't put me out of business. I went with another gas V10 on my 09, which now has 21,000 miles on it. The only problem my 09 had so far, was a poorly adjusted drivers door latch. How many new 6.4's can say that? That is a lot of gas money saved!
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It'll never break, You'll drive it 2x more than 95% of the population, and the parts for your are nearly free for you.
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My last diesel (a 6.0) went through $18,000 in repairs between 30,000 miles and 85,000 miles alone. While my 145,000 mile V10 truck went through a coil pack and a cat to pass emissions during the same period (about $225 total). And i never had to replace the Turbo yet, I'm sure that was around the corner. I had to bail out before the warranty was up, to make sure it didn't put me out of business. I went with another gas V10 on my 09, which now has 21,000 miles on it. The only problem my 09 had so far, was a poorly adjusted drivers door latch. How many new 6.4's can say that? That is a lot of gas money saved!
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Just like I tell everyone else. Anything I say about my truck I am more than willing to back up if you want to come verify it. You are more than welcome to come stay with me a week or two during the winter and see for yourself.
I never said my parts were free. I just said they don't cost any more than the parts for my 5.4. Do a price check on them and see. Starters, alternators, water pumps, cams, etc. Some are a few dollars more for the 5.4 and some are a few dollars more for the 7.3. The 7.3 has some parts that the 5.4 doesn't, but the 5.4 has some parts the 7.3 doesn't too. So in the end, it evens out.
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If you want to verify my mileage I can give you my address and the address of where I work. Just getting to and from my office is 80 miles per day. Over the course of the year that is 20,800 miles assuming I don't work a weekend(which happens quite often). Two days per week I have an additional trip that is 190 miles round trip. That is an additional 19,760 miles per year. So I am up to 40,560 already and that is assuming nothing goes wrong on our job sites. Last month I had to make the 190 mile trip every single day for 14 days straight. That's just my driving for work and doesn't count what I do on my own time.
I have actually cut down on my driving in the past year. We didn't do any work in West Virginia last year, so that saved me a 450 mile round trip drive that I was doing 2 days a week(in addition to my 190 mile trips for our Virginia work).
I have actually cut down on my driving in the past year. We didn't do any work in West Virginia last year, so that saved me a 450 mile round trip drive that I was doing 2 days a week(in addition to my 190 mile trips for our Virginia work).
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My last diesel (a 6.0) went through $18,000 in repairs between 30,000 miles and 85,000 miles alone. While my 145,000 mile V10 truck went through a coil pack and a cat to pass emissions during the same period (about $225 total). And i never had to replace the Turbo yet, I'm sure that was around the corner. I had to bail out before the warranty was up, to make sure it didn't put me out of business. I went with another gas V10 on my 09, which now has 21,000 miles on it. The only problem my 09 had so far, was a poorly adjusted drivers door latch. How many new 6.4's can say that? That is a lot of gas money saved!
Unless you need one, you have to want to own a diesel. Maintenance costs are definitely more expensive, but you make some/most/all of it back in longevity.
Both engines are more than capable. It just comes down to where you want your costs to be, what you want to listen to (cackle or rumble) and personal preference. I'm a torque kind of guys so it was a no-brainer for me.