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Old Mar 12, 2005 | 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by jim6liter
Heres just a quick question.If someone needs to send their Super chip back for update.Do you need to put your truck back to stock?Or just leave it in performance mode.
Set it back to stock first.
 
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Old Mar 12, 2005 | 03:22 PM
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Its a 6.0..I have held it down alittle but i let off because i dont have an EGT Gague yet and i dont want to hurt anything.. Just Flat out hammering these motors wont hurt em?

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Old Mar 12, 2005 | 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by The Man
Its a 6.0..I have held it down alittle but i let off because i dont have an EGT Gague yet and i dont want to hurt anything.. Just Flat out hammering these motors wont hurt em?

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It won't hurt it.

Go step on it and hold it on the floor through the gears.
 
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Old Mar 12, 2005 | 05:44 PM
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Yea the Powers there for sure, It Cut the tires loose off the bat and Barked them from 1st to 2nd and 2nd to 3rd... Very impressive..

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Old Mar 12, 2005 | 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by The Man
Yea the Powers there for sure, It Cut the tires loose off the bat and Barked them from 1st to 2nd and 2nd to 3rd... Very impressive..

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Ah yes...civil at part throttle and power on demand!
You had me worried for a minute...
 
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Old Mar 13, 2005 | 05:40 AM
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Yea i figured with around 150 More HP that i would feel a Huge Difference Even when not standing on it..

Great Product, I tell ya What When i heard them barkin 2nd and 3rd i was so excited.. Its a Great thing!
 
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Old Mar 13, 2005 | 09:34 AM
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There actually is a large difference at part throttle, which becomes very apparrent when pulling a trailer.
 
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Old Mar 13, 2005 | 06:27 PM
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Hey guys.What is the deal with some poeple blowing head gaskets with prorammers (especially Banks).This happened to a friend of mine with the Edge.Is this something to worry about?
 
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Old Mar 14, 2005 | 10:12 PM
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Why are the #'s for the new '05's different? I thought all they up was the torq to 570. What gives?

'05 F250-F350
67H--123T
97H--141T
99H--171T

'03-'04 F250-F350
80H--120T
120H--180T
150H--225T

F450
48H--70T
100H--147T
111H--162T
 
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Old Mar 14, 2005 | 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by TERSEJR
Why are the #'s for the new '05's different? I thought all they up was the torq to 570. What gives?

'05 F250-F350
67H--123T
97H--141T
99H--171T

'03-'04 F250-F350
80H--120T
120H--180T
150H--225T

F450
48H--70T
100H--147T
111H--162T
This was fully explained earlier, so I'll answer in brief:

#1 05 made different stock power than 04, and 04 was different than 03
#2 These are all inertia pots. They make a lot more power when loaded.
#3 03 Was still the fastest by far. Many 03 trucks were able to surpass 700
700 ft-lbs at the tire with only inertia pulls.

The F450-550 calibrations are very different, and make different power.

03,04 or 05...the power is going to vary a LOT from one truck to another.
It is not uncommon for two trucks of the same year to make 50 or 60 ft lbs different from each other.
"That's just the way it is".
It's not even close to cut and dry, because the trucks vary so much.
Load one in, drive it.....it feels ridiculously better than stock in all aspects =o)

On top of this, Fords advertised numbers don't mean crap!
They vary so much it's not even funny.
That's all flywheel HP and will have loss in drivetrain and change based on tire size, gear ratio, transmission, etc, etc...
 
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Old Mar 15, 2005 | 10:20 AM
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I do not have time to read 85+ pages of posts hoping to find what I am looking for. This is why I posted this eslewhere. I guess someone did not like because it is no longer up. I would rather reply to a simple post than to a reponce in a thread that is 85+ pages long. For all I know it has been answered on page 59. So how is it a new '05 6.0 is more powerfull than a '04? Same configuration on both vehicals? If it is all flywheel #'s why the drastic difference in superchips advertised #'s between a '05 and a '04? So are you saying that a '04 with the most current reflash will only see superchip horsepower #'s as for the '05's? If that is the case then a '04 with the stock flash should see an increase of the advertised #'s for the '04---- 80-120-150? If they only increased the torq out put on a '05 buy 10lbs. Then they are not rated (flywheel) correctly. '05 #'s 325 570, '04 #'s 325 560. That does not sound to me to be very different to warrent the low superchip #'s for a '05.
 
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Old Mar 15, 2005 | 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by TERSEJR
I do not have time to read 85+ pages of posts hoping to find what I am looking for. .
...and I do not have time to repeat answers over and over.
Superchips has a phone number, so please call them.

I have given you an answer that is as clear and consice as possible, without getting into a 20 page essay (believe me, I could do it and have =o)

It's not only a question of the year as it is tuning "strategy".

A F250 with 3.73's may put down more power than a 350 with 4.10's, and vice versa...it all depends on the stock calibration.
You are looking WAY TOO much at the peak numbers and less at the overall powercurve.

I could post up a plot for a 2003 stroke that made 730 ft lbs and say it is for "03-05 6.0L, but I chose to pick random trucks of each year for the test so as not to be misleading.

I had posted a very large reply (which I can't find as of yet) explaining all the different types of gains. If I find it, I'll post a link.

Does anyone remember that thread where I broke down peak to peak, gain at peak and peak gains? I just spent about 10 minutes looking for it, and the CC is on my personal laptop at home so I can't post it now.
If no one finds it and posts it, I will post it back up later.

Don't over-analyze a peak number, look at the overall curve and realize that the base AND modifed numbers are going to vary a little (sometimes more than a little) different on each truck.

An 04 and 05 are going to run neck and neck after tuning. The 04 or 05 may put down more power depending on equipment, load and calibration.

If you don't follow this entirely, it's ok.....just don't hammer me because it is a "correct" short answer on a subject witha LOT of variables.

I gotta run.......WAY overloaded with work today.
 
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Old Mar 15, 2005 | 11:05 AM
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If you can find and post the link that would be very helpfull to me. If the aftermarket would post the curves I would rather read those and not peak #'s, but that is all they advertise. I think what you are saying is that the power curve for the '05 is broader than that of the '04. I guess that is why the peak #'s are lower on the '05's. If the curve for the '04 is peakier than that would explain the higher peak #'s.
 
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Old Mar 15, 2005 | 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by TERSEJR
I do not have time to read 85+ pages of posts hoping to find what I am looking for.
TERSEJR, I'll be frank - you're being pretty rude here. No one on here owes you any response. As Vic as stated, he offers his free time to assist with information, this is not the Superchips Support line. The reality of any bulletin board is first read, then ask - that is how they are intended to be used.

Mark
 
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Old Mar 15, 2005 | 12:00 PM
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I moved the duplicate post/thread to the Moderator delete forum because it was a duplicate post.

In general, users will get more feedback regarding the SCMT by posting in the SCMT thread than in the general forum at large.

I know it may be time consuming to go back through and read tons of posts in the SCMT thread but to simiplify things you can set your display to show the most recent posts first and then start working your way backwards. The search function also works really well when looking for a particular subject.

And regardless of just how great the gains are with the tuner from model year to model year, they are still significant gains and you'll be very pleased with the increased power the tuner makes available.

Daryl
 
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