With a strike upon us ....
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Cargo Master
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So someone please help if I am wrong.
If a union worker works 2.5 hours per month for union dues.
That would be 130 hours annually, based on 52 weeks at 40 hours a week.
That would mean 3.25 WEEKS annually that you work to pay dues.
Multiplied by what lets just say 35000 ( just pulled a number out of my ***) union members, that is an incredible amount of work going to a union that could be going to the individuals instead.
No wonder union bosses live in multi million dollar mansions.
If a union worker works 2.5 hours per month for union dues.
That would be 130 hours annually, based on 52 weeks at 40 hours a week.
That would mean 3.25 WEEKS annually that you work to pay dues.
Multiplied by what lets just say 35000 ( just pulled a number out of my ***) union members, that is an incredible amount of work going to a union that could be going to the individuals instead.
No wonder union bosses live in multi million dollar mansions.
You want to get factual? It's only 2 hours per month, That's 24 hours a year. Which is approximately 1% of income.
More Turbo
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Finding some UAW and Ford employee forums shows the membership is getting tired of Fain's tactics. More about his salary is being discovered as he's drawn so much attention to himself, and his "all or nothing" demands while he still draws full pay is turning more members against him. Many digging into his finances now. It's estimated he's in the top 5%, and possibly in the top 1% of earners in his home state. This won't end well for either side now unfortunately.
Lead Driver
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From: Hartford, WI
More about his salary is being discovered as he's drawn so much attention to himself, and his "all or nothing" demands while he still draws full pay is turning more members against him. Many digging into his finances now. It's estimated he's in the top 5%, and possibly in the top 1% of earners in his home state. This won't end well for either side now unfortunately.
Fleet Mechanic
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Funny, the UAW strike doesn't even make the news anymore. Most people just don't give a **** about it. I have both a Superduty and a Wrangler on order and as far as I am concerned they can all take their time working out a new offer.
Strikers have the option to live on $500 a week. But you can rest assured Mr. "Eat the rich" is laughing the entire way to the bank on what he makes a day.
Strikers have the option to live on $500 a week. But you can rest assured Mr. "Eat the rich" is laughing the entire way to the bank on what he makes a day.
Fleet Mechanic
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From: Wasilla, AK
So someone please help if I am wrong.
If a union worker works 2.5 hours per month for union dues.
That would be 130 hours annually, based on 52 weeks at 40 hours a week.
That would mean 3.25 WEEKS annually that you work to pay dues.
Multiplied by what lets just say 35000 ( just pulled a number out of my ***) union members, that is an incredible amount of work going to a union that could be going to the individuals instead.
No wonder union bosses live in multi million dollar mansions.
If a union worker works 2.5 hours per month for union dues.
That would be 130 hours annually, based on 52 weeks at 40 hours a week.
That would mean 3.25 WEEKS annually that you work to pay dues.
Multiplied by what lets just say 35000 ( just pulled a number out of my ***) union members, that is an incredible amount of work going to a union that could be going to the individuals instead.
No wonder union bosses live in multi million dollar mansions.
I like how you do math, lol
Lead Driver
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From: Hartford, WI
To the victor, the spoils. Besides, if you want me to do something, there will be a fee associated with it. You didn't think I would be doing this for love, did you?
Cross-Country
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No union
Yes I was calculating weekly and not monthly. Well I asked to correct me if wrong.
So thanks!
That is still a considerable amount of money multiplied by numerous members.
I'll take it.
So thanks!
That is still a considerable amount of money multiplied by numerous members.
I'll take it.
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That works out to $265 a week MORE than the strikers are getting. Thing was, back then they WORKED for the money too, and had a much higher skill set than the mouth breathers do today.
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This summer, Markeis Womack, 31, installed visors and glove boxes on Broncos and Rangers for about eight hours a day on the assembly line at the Ford plant in Wayne, starting at 6 a.m. After, he cleaned offices, churches and day cares on a 10-hour shift working as a janitor. His work day ended at 4 a.m., because his Ford job didn’t pay enough to make ends meet. Womack, the father of two young kids, makes[ $20.69 an hour at Ford and said he can only dream of “stability and owning a house.”
Steven Summers, 60, who works in incoming quality control in the same Ford factory, has had things a bit easier. After 24 years on the job, Summers makes $32 an hour. He and his wife, a formerautoworker, own a four-bedroom house with a pool in a suburb of Detroit. They raised four daughters and a grandchild on their wages, vacationing in Myrtle Beach, S.C., and signing up for softball leagues. His family isn’t rich, Summers says, but “we’re doing all right.”
Back in 1999, Summers started at $14 an hour — almost three times as much as minimum wage at the time — a rate that, adjusted for inflation, would be the equivalent of $22 an hour in 2020, when Womack started at Ford. But Womack’s starting wage was much less than that — $16.67 — about 1½ times as much as Michigan’s minimum wage and not much more than market wages at local fast-food chains.
Steven Summers, 60, who works in incoming quality control in the same Ford factory, has had things a bit easier. After 24 years on the job, Summers makes $32 an hour. He and his wife, a formerautoworker, own a four-bedroom house with a pool in a suburb of Detroit. They raised four daughters and a grandchild on their wages, vacationing in Myrtle Beach, S.C., and signing up for softball leagues. His family isn’t rich, Summers says, but “we’re doing all right.”
Back in 1999, Summers started at $14 an hour — almost three times as much as minimum wage at the time — a rate that, adjusted for inflation, would be the equivalent of $22 an hour in 2020, when Womack started at Ford. But Womack’s starting wage was much less than that — $16.67 — about 1½ times as much as Michigan’s minimum wage and not much more than market wages at local fast-food chains.
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If you want to make a decent wage after 4 years with the best benefits possible as well as a fantastic retirement join the military and give your country 20 years. If your enlisted, once you make E6 or higher the pay is really good. Basically free medical and dental for you, and your family has free medical. Unlimited sick leave, and at least 30 days paid vacation a year. Hell, they will even pay for your college while you are in and once you retire. Or pass along the college benefit to one of your kids. Many people enter the military with zero college and leave with a BA, BS, or higher at the end of their career.
Join at 18, retire at 38, and suck at the government tit for the rest of your life because you earned it.
Just stop bitching how bad you have it and do something about it.
Join at 18, retire at 38, and suck at the government tit for the rest of your life because you earned it.
Just stop bitching how bad you have it and do something about it.
More Turbo
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If you want to make a decent wage after 4 years with the best benefits possible as well as a fantastic retirement join the military and give your country 20 years. If your enlisted, once you make E6 or higher the pay is really good. Basically free medical and dental for you, and your family has free medical. Unlimited sick leave, and at least 30 days paid vacation a year. Hell, they will even pay for your college while you are in and once you retire. Or pass along the college benefit to one of your kids. Many people enter the military with zero college and leave with a BA, BS, or higher at the end of their career.
Join at 18, retire at 38, and suck at the government tit for the rest of your life because you earned it.
Just stop bitching how bad you have it and do something about it.
Join at 18, retire at 38, and suck at the government tit for the rest of your life because you earned it.
Just stop bitching how bad you have it and do something about it.
bob
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From: Wasilla, AK
Joined at 18, retired at 39 in 1992, picked up 3 years of college along the way.
Wife joined at 20, retired at 40 in 1995, her job transferred to the GS side and she gave them 18 years and retired again at age 58. She liked school more than me and picked up a MBA along the way.
Both of us joined because the pickings were slim in the small towns we grew up in.
We never went on strike. If we wanted to get promoted you had to hit the books hard (USAF).
You can make as much as you want out of life. But don’t expect it to be given to you.
Our son didn’t care for college. He had decent jobs for 8 years or so out of high school. He got tired of watching his friends excell so he buckled down and got his RN degree. He wanted more so recently finished his BSN. Now he is making $50 an hour. He could quit his job today and have another before he made it to his car.
No one is entitled to anything. Get off your *** and go get it.
Wife joined at 20, retired at 40 in 1995, her job transferred to the GS side and she gave them 18 years and retired again at age 58. She liked school more than me and picked up a MBA along the way.
Both of us joined because the pickings were slim in the small towns we grew up in.
We never went on strike. If we wanted to get promoted you had to hit the books hard (USAF).
You can make as much as you want out of life. But don’t expect it to be given to you.
Our son didn’t care for college. He had decent jobs for 8 years or so out of high school. He got tired of watching his friends excell so he buckled down and got his RN degree. He wanted more so recently finished his BSN. Now he is making $50 an hour. He could quit his job today and have another before he made it to his car.
No one is entitled to anything. Get off your *** and go get it.
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From: Hartford, WI
Joined at 18, retired at 39 in 1992, picked up 3 years of college along the way.
Wife joined at 20, retired at 40 in 1995, her job transferred to the GS side and she gave them 18 years and retired again at age 58. She liked school more than me and picked up a MBA along the way.
Both of us joined because the pickings were slim in the small towns we grew up in.
We never went on strike. If we wanted to get promoted you had to hit the books hard (USAF).
You can make as much as you want out of life. But don’t expect it to be given to you.
Our son didn’t care for college. He had decent jobs for 8 years or so out of high school. He got tired of watching his friends excell so he buckled down and got his RN degree. He wanted more so recently finished his BSN. Now he is making $50 an hour. He could quit his job today and have another before he made it to his car.
No one is entitled to anything. Get off your *** and go get it.
Wife joined at 20, retired at 40 in 1995, her job transferred to the GS side and she gave them 18 years and retired again at age 58. She liked school more than me and picked up a MBA along the way.
Both of us joined because the pickings were slim in the small towns we grew up in.
We never went on strike. If we wanted to get promoted you had to hit the books hard (USAF).
You can make as much as you want out of life. But don’t expect it to be given to you.
Our son didn’t care for college. He had decent jobs for 8 years or so out of high school. He got tired of watching his friends excell so he buckled down and got his RN degree. He wanted more so recently finished his BSN. Now he is making $50 an hour. He could quit his job today and have another before he made it to his car.
No one is entitled to anything. Get off your *** and go get it.
Can't understand the entitlement mentality myself. I'm much better off than many but not as good as quite a few. Could I be better off than I am today? Probably. Since I chose not to be, I can't complain or be unhappy. Not their fault that they chose to work smarter and harder than I.