With a strike upon us ....
Lead Driver
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From: Hartford, WI
At the same time, if I’m happy with my job, why should Lazy Larry and Stoner Steve vote to strike, and force me out of work on $500/wk pay for who knows how long? Maybe I won’t have a job to go back to?
I don’t have to hold a gun to my employers head, because they pay well and have good benefits…enough so that we are not union. My company in our bordering state of WV is union however, and they are paid much less than we are. Imagine that.
I don’t have to hold a gun to my employers head, because they pay well and have good benefits…enough so that we are not union. My company in our bordering state of WV is union however, and they are paid much less than we are. Imagine that.
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Cargo Master
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At the same time, if I’m happy with my job, why should Lazy Larry and Stoner Steve vote to strike, and force me out of work on $500/wk pay for who knows how long? Maybe I won’t have a job to go back to?
I don’t have to hold a gun to my employers head, because they pay well and have good benefits…enough so that we are not union. My company in our bordering state of WV is union however, and they are paid much less than we are. Imagine that.
I don’t have to hold a gun to my employers head, because they pay well and have good benefits…enough so that we are not union. My company in our bordering state of WV is union however, and they are paid much less than we are. Imagine that.
I'm assuming you've been there a long time?
This happens more frequently than most would believe.
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Cargo Master
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Not only that, why would I want to be paid for productivity based on the average amount I, Lazy Larry and Stoner Steve churn out? I want to be able to get more if I can do more and am willing to take less if I prove to be less valuable. I want to negotiate that and not you doing it for me, taking a bite out of the paycheck.
1% of your union dues just earned you a 25% raise plus more benefits, I believe most would pay that in a heartbeat. It's actually a good investment.
You invest money into the government. Every day you work, do you see a equally good return?
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Paycheck..... Taxes range in the 30 to 40% of paychecks, Union is usually about 1% yet. What do you get in return for your 30 to 40% of your taxes??
1% of your union dues just earned you a 25% raise plus more benefits, I believe most would pay that in a heartbeat. It's actually a good investment.
You invest money into the government. Every day you work, do you see a equally good return?
1% of your union dues just earned you a 25% raise plus more benefits, I believe most would pay that in a heartbeat. It's actually a good investment.
You invest money into the government. Every day you work, do you see a equally good return?
Lead Driver
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From: Hartford, WI
Depending on the circumstances. If I am able to get more for the SAME work, I will be over there already. If not, depending on how much, I may be moving. Another option is to change industry. That's a pretty complex question with too few know things to really make a good decision.
More Turbo
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IMO, American companies should not be in bed with the CCP especially when taxpayers money is involved. they have become an adversary on all levels and we may be in conflict with them in the very near future no way American tax revenue should be used to feed their aggressive behavior.
Lead Driver
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From: Hartford, WI
IMO, American companies should not be in bed with the CCP especially when taxpayers money is involved. they have become an adversary on all levels and we may be in conflict with them in the very near future no way American tax revenue should be used to feed their aggressive behavior.
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I have to deal with our HR department and complaints lodged "anonymously" from time to time. OSHA shows up unannounced on our job sites to verify safety rules are being followed by all the trades. I am positive my company is not the only one that deals with these things all the time.
And BTW, I never said the UAW solved anything - I stated UNIONS had a part in resolving those issues I listed - and that is easily verified with just a tiny bit of research.
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Paycheck..... Taxes range in the 30 to 40% of paychecks, Union is usually about 1% yet. What do you get in return for your 30 to 40% of your taxes??
1% of your union dues just earned you a 25% raise plus more benefits, I believe most would pay that in a heartbeat. It's actually a good investment.
You invest money into the government. Every day you work, do you see a equally good return?
1% of your union dues just earned you a 25% raise plus more benefits, I believe most would pay that in a heartbeat. It's actually a good investment.
You invest money into the government. Every day you work, do you see a equally good return?
What do you get in return for you taxes.... Freedom would be top of the list, those roads you drive on, last I checked most (not all)of those were funded by tax dollars. Many people's employment are funded by our taxes, I could go on and on and on and on if you'd like.
Lead Driver
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From: Hartford, WI
Past Tense. Not today. Not really relevant anymore.
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Im going to go out on a limb and say that my company is too large to be bought. A merger perhaps, but that’s still a long shot. Company has been around since the 1800’s and is a well recognized name in every country in the world.
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Instead of some nebulous statement, please give us a real example of workplace abuse that isn't covered in today's world of OSHA, HR and our litigious society in general. I'd especially be interested in the abuses being dealt out by the companies the UAW is present in. I'll wait.
I have to deal with our HR department and complaints lodged "anonymously" from time to time. OSHA shows up unannounced on our job sites to verify safety rules are being followed by all the trades. I am positive my company is not the only one that deals with these things all the time.
And BTW, I never said the UAW solved anything - I stated UNIONS had a part in resolving those issues I listed - and that is easily verified with just a tiny bit of research.
I have to deal with our HR department and complaints lodged "anonymously" from time to time. OSHA shows up unannounced on our job sites to verify safety rules are being followed by all the trades. I am positive my company is not the only one that deals with these things all the time.
And BTW, I never said the UAW solved anything - I stated UNIONS had a part in resolving those issues I listed - and that is easily verified with just a tiny bit of research.
Please show us on the doll where the union has hurt you.
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Cargo Master
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Married with 2 dependents my tax isn't any where near 30-40%, there are very few people in that tax bracket.... For a single person if you make under $182k per year you are paying 24% federal taxes and that's only on the income from 95k-182k. Sure many people make that per year but those are few and far between, also depends on location. If I made $182k where I live I'd be a 1%er and living high on the hog for sure. I get the point you're trying to make here though.
What do you get in return for you taxes.... Freedom would be top of the list, those roads you drive on, last I checked most (not all)of those were funded by tax dollars. Many people's employment are funded by our taxes, I could go on and on and on and on if you'd like.
What do you get in return for you taxes.... Freedom would be top of the list, those roads you drive on, last I checked most (not all)of those were funded by tax dollars. Many people's employment are funded by our taxes, I could go on and on and on and on if you'd like.
To clear up something, for every dollar you make , approximately 30 to 40% of it is spent on taxes.
You pay (generally speaking) about 3 to 4 taxes on roads as example. You pay tax on the clothes you buy, and the food you eat, etc.
I understand that some states do not have state tax or income tax or whatnot but they make it up another ways.
My point is what I'm saying is I'd pay 1% for a 25% raise any day of the week is a better investment/ return.
Logistics Pro
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My question was do you see it as equal return?
To clear up something, for every dollar you make , approximately 30 to 40% of it is spent on taxes.
You pay (generally speaking) about 3 to 4 taxes on roads as example. You pay tax on the clothes you buy, and the food you eat, etc.
I understand that some states do not have state tax or income tax or whatnot but they make it up another ways.
My point is what I'm saying is I'd pay 1% for a 25% raise any day of the week is a better investment/ return.
To clear up something, for every dollar you make , approximately 30 to 40% of it is spent on taxes.
You pay (generally speaking) about 3 to 4 taxes on roads as example. You pay tax on the clothes you buy, and the food you eat, etc.
I understand that some states do not have state tax or income tax or whatnot but they make it up another ways.
My point is what I'm saying is I'd pay 1% for a 25% raise any day of the week is a better investment/ return.