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Problem is that when it is run by the government, we have an entity that makes the rules and enforces it and is able to juggle numbers to make something look good to appeal to the voters.

IMO, government needs to be ONLY the impartial arbiter of any dispute not something that is having interest in the entity. I'd rather not have government pick winners and losers.

 

Ask yourself this. Who gains the most out of these strikes? The little guy or the Union head honchos? The consumer sure doesn't, nor do the manufacturers. If a manufacturer can't profit off what they make, then why even be in business? Without profits, they can't do R&D, without R&D they fall to the wayside as other companies make new and improved. R&D costs money, lots of money. What a CEO makes is a pittance of what R&D costs are. Everyone who thinks the CEO makes too much would not last a day in his/her position.

 

The middle class families of Detroit see the gainz..

That little girl who couldn't go to physical therapy due to Ford canceling her daddies healthcare will gain when her daddy gets what's owed to him. Didn't you see her at the protest on the news? Have a heart Acidii

My 2023 F450 Limited isn't worth that little girls health.

Now excuse my while I go day drink Fatheads Pumpkin ale and grab a massage in it since my multi contours weren't deleted and were built perfectly and impeccably by union strong labor at KTP
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By the way this isn't trolling its full blown ogring.

 

wah wah wah. Sob stories don't mean crap. Obamacare will take care of the health issues because Obamacare forces employers to provide healthcare. Sounds like a bogus reasoning to me.

 

Sir you can keep your doctor. I pwomise.

 

If it wasn't one of the biggest lies it would be funny. I swear healthcare was a LOT better prior to Obamacare. Not only did I not get to keep my doctor, he decided go into research instead and he was a damned good doctor.

 

Honestly I have not even had insurance since Obamacare. I am self employed.

It's ok though.. he cured slavery and racism. It was worth it.
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CEO pay is something cool to focus on. However, you raise a good point. As union boss, I get paid regardless. We strike and you get a few bucks. Maybe I might be more pro union if I were the boss? You get a raise and I get a bonus. You strike and lose, sorry. Either way, I get paid.

 

Fain made a name for himself as a loud dissenter to the previous UAW politburo. The trouble for the rank and file workers is no one knows what Fain intends to consider a stopping point so they are all just along for the ride.

 

Again, you are using your value system to determine what a CEO is worth. Why no complaints about attorneys, actors & actresses, late night comedy hosts, musicians, producers, professional athletes, etc.? Why are they allowed to earn many times what a CEO might earn?

You think the US doesn't have a vibrant, free-market economy? I disagree - and so do many economists. Of course when the Federal Government is the single largest employer in the USA that skews things. So does the SEC. Even with those negative inputs into the formula the US is still predominantly a free-market economy driven by the laws of supply and demand.


The US Small Business Association defines small businesses as independent businesses having fewer than 500 employees.

As of 2022 there are 33,200,000 small businesses in America. That is 99.9% of all U.S. businesses.

Small businesses employ 46% of the American private sector workforce.

Small businesses comprise 97.3% of all exporters, accounting for 1/3 of all export $$ value which was $413,300,000,000 in 2022.

Between 1995 - 2021 small businesses created almost 2/3 of all new jobs. That was 17,300,000 new jobs in America.

Small businesses represent 43.5% of the US GDP.


Small businesses operate basically under the laws of supply and demand - the essence of a free market economy.

My closest friend and his wife own their own small business. He started it in 1986 - a wheel and tire shop. He started with just two of them - him and a friend. They ended up having disagreements on how to run the business so the friend left. My friend's wife quit her job and started working with him - she answered the phone, made appointments, etc. He was the sales guy, the tire tech, etc. His father did the books for them until Quickbooks came along. My friend started his business with a single used metal desk, a single line phone, a wheel catalog, a tire catalog, used tire mounting and balancing machines, a floor jack, a small Craftsman compressor, an impact wrench - all in a single garage door space rented from a slum lord. He saved $10,000 to get it started. Then they rented a larger space and worked there for 10 years or so. Eventually they were able to hire a tire tech. Then another. Then another. Then another. Then they finally bought a much larger building, in a much nicer section of town, where they operate today. Then they expanded into suspension work, lift kits, etc. Then they expanded into high performance brakes. They have 4 full-time technicians, 1 shop manager and 3 sales people. They pay themselves $100,000 per year as salaries - $50,000 each. They pay their tire techs $25 / hour and the shop manager makes $75,000. Sales people have a base salary and get commissions on their sales.

I can assure you - they are not unique. I have gone to small business group gatherings and meetings with them. There are thousands of people in the Tampa Bay area alone that operate their own business - and they all struggle with the same things so some started getting together to pool their buying power for benefits, operating insurance, shared services like bookkeeping, taxes, etc. I am positive this scenario happens all across the USA.

My friend and his wife will retire as "minor millionaires" after 40+ years of blood, sweat and tears invested in their business. I assure you none of their employees will retire as "minor millionaires" by working at my friend's shop. So whose fault is that? My friend & his wife? Or is it the person's fault who chooses to trade his labor for my friend's money because he won't start his own company? Or doesn't have the guts or aptitude to start his own company? Or won't learn a trade to allow him to earn enough to make a viable pass at retirement? Does my friend and his wife owe them something beyond what they agreed was fair pay for fair work? If his shop guys "unionized" and demanded $100,000 per year does that obligate my friend to pay them that? At what point are YOU accountable for your position in life?

Manipulating businesses from a central point might be easy to do with the Fortune 500 - but it is not so easy with small businesses. Please explain how "foreign elites" or even "domestic elites" are transferring wealth from these small businesses to themselves or others? The largest transfer of wealth going on right now I can see is the federal government stealing money from the citizens to distribute it to all kinds of people and things it shouldn't be used for.

 

Notice people like that always avoid the topic of how politicians who supposedly have been on life long modest government official salaries representing the interest of the working class just so happens ending up buying compounds in Hawaii or Martha's Vineyard.

 

Perhaps a fair solution is that we have a body determine what every vocation is worth and we all be hourly waged? Better yet, set an equal hourly wage if you believe everyone will work to their best. Gotta go. Got to shoot me some flying pigs for dinner.

Freeish. Problem is that we have government interfering when it should be upholding the rules. I don't know how you feel about us having a dispute with my wife as arbiter but there it is.

You do realize that people will talk of rights/privileges all day long but I have never heard the same people talk of responsibility.

 

Don't forget a political department in each factory to ensure radical extremist influences don't take root and give people ideas about being judged by the content of one's character and such.

 

I'm in !!! Good news is... we already have that !! It's called the free market. I've noticed lots of people who think they are worth more don't like it but that doesn't change the reality of the economy. So sad they cannot convince all of us that a Whopper-Flopper should be paid $50K because, you know, they have a family to support. Is that also known as "aerial bacon" ??? EVERYONE loves bacon !!!

No way I'm traveling down that path. I know better. My buddy mentioned above - his wife is the HAMMER at their shop. Super nice to customers, super nice to employees - until they cross the line. I bust his ***** all the time and tell him he better straighten up or I'll tell his wife. :-)

It's amazing and truly dis-heartening. I've heard this so many times, from so many milleniots, that it makes me angry now: "If only the bad CEO didn't make millions - THEN I would have a job making $100,000+ like I deserve. I mean, I have a BA in English for Pete's sake !!! I finished 4 years of college - I DESERVE to make 6 figures right out of school with a degree that brings something to only 0.05% of the entire business world. It's not my fault companies don't see the value in my degree. I worked really hard to get it."

Kinda like a high school grad that thinks they should get $100,000 per year with a 32 hour work week, awesome medical benefits and a pension - for installing tires and lug nuts on new trucks rolling down an air conditioned assembly line. Yeah, that makes PERFECT sense...