With a strike upon us ....
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The real question is , WHY people don't want to work...??? Could it be that people see the widening gap between workers & "management"...??? Could it be that people can't afford/don't want to afford living at that certain wage...??? or Maybe this generation is just lazier and still living at home...???
Fleet Mechanic
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The real question is , WHY people don't want to work...??? Could it be that people see the widening gap between workers & "management"...??? Could it be that people can't afford/don't want to afford living at that certain wage...??? or Maybe this generation is just lazier and still living at home...???
nobody wants to put in 40+ hours, give half of it to taxes, pay a **** load for health insurance, and live pay check to pay check. That’s the reality for a lot of full time employees now days!!
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Very few low incoming people working paycheck to paycheck are paying anywhere near 25% in federal and state income taxes once all the deductions, credits, etc are factored in, state/local sales taxes are voter approved. Those who need subsidized health care always have Obamacare exchanges.
Lead Driver
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From: Hartford, WI
I know of a guy that wanted a promotion. He insisted that it be in that particular place and wasn't willing to travel further. He didn't get it. He could have gone to other branches but there it is. You have to go where the jobs are and NOT insist on the job coming to you. Non skilled jobs are on the way out and have been for a while. Got to wake up and smell the coffee burning before it gets to be too late.
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Because they are entitled, lazy *******es that somehow think they deserve to earn what a 30+ year experienced worker earns while they have ZERO years of experience and effort.
This is such a crock it is hardly worth responding to. The widening gap is self-inflicted. THEY ARE THE GAP. They don't want to work at the bottom and move up over time - LIKE ALL OF US HAD TO DO. They feel that their college degree somehow entitles them to earn a six figure salary right out of school. I graduated high school at 18 years of age - I didn't earn a six figure salary until 16 years later. Somehow they think they should be allowed to skip the sixteen years of work, experience, learning, etc. That is the root of the problem.
So what is the alternative? Oh yeah - stay "home" and sponge off your Mom & Dad who, by the way, earned what they have by working at a menial job and moved their way up to whatever positions they had that allowed them to make a life for you to sponge off of.
BINGO !!!!! The absolute laziest group I've seen so far. It's embarrassing...
BINGO !!!!! The absolute laziest group I've seen so far. It's embarrassing...
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well hopefully we find out. This is turning out to be bad timing for uaw, especially to be so hard lined. Demand is dropping quick. People are tired of high vehicle prices and their own finacial situation is only getting worse. Would be great to dismantle something like the uaw and let the employees and the big three split the savings.
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As it sits today I have two jobs. My full time job I lose 30% of my checks right off the top (although admittedly a little of that is retirement contribution) and with my part time gig 40% is gone in taxes off the top. It's already completely insane. Wife and I have been married 19 years. We traditionally got a good amount back in taxes each year for 17 consecutive years. The last two years under Biden we have OWED taxes at the end of the year. It's just insane.
The blue party is KILLING the middle class.
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On the radio this morning, they said the IRS will soon be announcing changes to tax rates. I've heard that for most of us we'll be paying 5% more.
As it sits today I have two jobs. My full time job I lose 30% of my checks right off the top (although admittedly a little of that is retirement contribution) and with my part time gig 40% is gone in taxes off the top. It's already completely insane. Wife and I have been married 19 years. We traditionally got a good amount back in taxes each year for 17 consecutive years. The last two years under Biden we have OWED taxes at the end of the year. It's just insane.
The blue party is KILLING the middle class.
As it sits today I have two jobs. My full time job I lose 30% of my checks right off the top (although admittedly a little of that is retirement contribution) and with my part time gig 40% is gone in taxes off the top. It's already completely insane. Wife and I have been married 19 years. We traditionally got a good amount back in taxes each year for 17 consecutive years. The last two years under Biden we have OWED taxes at the end of the year. It's just insane.
The blue party is KILLING the middle class.
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From: DFW
On the radio this morning, they said the IRS will soon be announcing changes to tax rates. I've heard that for most of us we'll be paying 5% more.
As it sits today I have two jobs. My full time job I lose 30% of my checks right off the top (although admittedly a little of that is retirement contribution) and with my part time gig 40% is gone in taxes off the top. It's already completely insane. Wife and I have been married 19 years. We traditionally got a good amount back in taxes each year for 17 consecutive years. The last two years under Biden we have OWED taxes at the end of the year. It's just insane.
The blue party is KILLING the middle class.
As it sits today I have two jobs. My full time job I lose 30% of my checks right off the top (although admittedly a little of that is retirement contribution) and with my part time gig 40% is gone in taxes off the top. It's already completely insane. Wife and I have been married 19 years. We traditionally got a good amount back in taxes each year for 17 consecutive years. The last two years under Biden we have OWED taxes at the end of the year. It's just insane.
The blue party is KILLING the middle class.
The current climate (financially) will help right-size the UAW's argument - they picked the worst time to push back. Because folks will stop buying, demand will fall, prices will fall in response, and hopefully food, fuel, and housing will follow. Groceries are getting out of site. I wonder how unions have an effect on food prices???
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Looks like UAW just ordered its members to shut down Chrysler's Sterling Heights plant that makes their DT half tons
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/comp...nt/ar-AA1iHP6v
That will teach Ram for the nerve of having two Plants in Michigan making pickups especially after investing heavily in the Sterling Heights to retool it completely from a passenger car plant to a truck plant.
I wonder what Bill Ford Jr. is thinking right about now knowing his family made serious effort to keep jobs in the US.
https://blueovalforums.com/forums/in...-hike/&page=44
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/comp...nt/ar-AA1iHP6v
That will teach Ram for the nerve of having two Plants in Michigan making pickups especially after investing heavily in the Sterling Heights to retool it completely from a passenger car plant to a truck plant.
I wonder what Bill Ford Jr. is thinking right about now knowing his family made serious effort to keep jobs in the US.
https://blueovalforums.com/forums/in...-hike/&page=44
For the record, the ONLY reason the F-150 is even built at the Rouge is because of Bill Ford. I was one of the managers of that '09-14 F-150 program and when that program started we closed Norfolk and were looking for another place to build it. Tere were other lower-cost options - including some non-UAW facilities. (Namely Mexico.) Bill Ford said no way. They decided to pay a lot more money to make it work in Dearborn.
I keep thinking of those moments during this strike and part of me wishes they'd shut them all down and go non-union across the board. Would be better for the company in the long run.
There have also been proposals over the years to even relocate the HQ out of the country. (Like Eaton when they "moved" to Ireland.) But again, the Ford's won't let it happen even though they know it would be better financially in the long run.
I keep thinking of those moments during this strike and part of me wishes they'd shut them all down and go non-union across the board. Would be better for the company in the long run.
There have also been proposals over the years to even relocate the HQ out of the country. (Like Eaton when they "moved" to Ireland.) But again, the Ford's won't let it happen even though they know it would be better financially in the long run.
Fleet Mechanic
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From: Wasilla, AK
Millions of people move to where they can make a better life for themself. It has been happening since the first settlers started moving to North America
Fleet Mechanic
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Man id hate to be some of your alls neighbors. seeing how some of you feel about the working class is sad.
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do you have any idea how many people and their families from Gary, Youngstown, Baltimore, Pittsburg, Detroit moved to the west coast and the South since steel and auto workers started losing their jobs in the 70s?
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The current climate (financially) will help right-size the UAW's argument - they picked the worst time to push back. Because folks will stop buying, demand will fall, prices will fall in response, and hopefully food, fuel, and housing will follow. Groceries are getting out of site. I wonder how unions have an effect on food prices???